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Is Dark Venture a Mini Magic Realm?

MB Updated February 27, 2020
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Is Dark Venture a Mini Magic Realm?

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Against the Eggmen

I’m going to preface this review of Gilded Skull Games’ Dark Venture with a dire warning. Odds are, this game is not for you. Many will play this game and furrow their brow at how messy and fussy it can be, at how you wind up managing all of these characters, monsters, and NPCs. Others will be overly concerned about the replay value since there are only two paragraph books. Some won’t even get through the occasionally vague rulebook. And there is undoubtedly a contingent out there who very, very wrongly will decry the artwork, which is destined to be among the best we will see in games this year.

But maybe this game is for you. Do you like whole vintage first edition Gygaxian D&D thing? How about all that Appendix N, Jack Vance science fantasy stuff? Do you miss Gamma World? Do you wish that Magic Realm was actually playable in 2020? Most importantly, do you prefer a slightly disheveled game with a ramshackle, punk sense of anarchic energy and a wild heart over an overdeveloped fascist timepiece of a design with perfect balance and impeccable rules?

Dark Venture is mostly definitely for me and I knew it was when I saw the incredible, grotesque, psychedelic artwork that I recognized from an IOS RPG that Gilded Skull put out years ago called Galactic Keep. But it’s also the kind of design where when someone enumerates its “flaws” and deficiencies I can’t really disagree. I just don’t really care about them, because I like the setting, the atmosphere, and the action so much. Sometimes critical comparisons and value barometers break down and you just love a game for what it is, not what you think it should be based on critical standards. Dark Venture is one of those for me.

This is an adventure card game, which is normally a pretty boring concept seeing as I’ve played like a hundred and fifty of those in the past five years. You have a character, they flip cards, you use cards as a map, you roll dice at cards that have monsters on them, and occasionally you add a card to your holdings as equipment or weapons, et cetera ad infinitum. Guess what, your character has STATS. And, drumroll please, SPECIAL ABILITIES. Don’t get overly excited, but it’s an ACTION POINT SYSTEM. And you have to complete QUESTS to earn points to win. This is all the most boring, redundant stuff ever in the history of ever. 

However, something special starts emerge from these mundane elements. As your plant man, bow-wielding robot, whatever Haglor the Ghostly is, or princess wander the location cards, an emergent narrative forms.  Each of the sites has a corresponding entry in the zine-sized Location Guide that you read and react to – it’s like a paragraph game. Some of the entries branch off into skill checks, battles, spawning enemies or followers, treasure, and other unexpected consequences. So exploring the crashed spaceship or a castle might lead to a little adventure scenario in miniature. 

But that’s not where the story ends, because players also have Character cards in their hands that can be played, which spawns all kinds of potential enemies or possible allies into the world. You can play a Character to mess with someone – like, for example, dropping an aggressive Rhorgonkrul on someone heading to complete a quest. Or, you might play a Character with the intent of partying up with them and taking them. The game world comes alive with persistent, weird NPCs all over the card- based map, and not all are monsters to be fought. I love this because it is unexpected and makes for some fun storytelling.

In the best session I’ve played of the game, which I call “Against the Eggmen”, I started out with a Quest that required me to kill some, well, Eggmen. I wound up with a sword that gave a bonus against Eggman armor and a Ghostly Kid sidekick. We wound up by luck at the Eggman King’s castle, where he was apparently dangling Princess Britta over the wall. We saved her and she joined the fight and after a too-long, confusing battle we beat them all and I ended up with the best solo score I’ve ever had. Narratively, it all worked together and was fun, memorable, and awesome. 

When this game hits the mark – creating these old school RPG-style storylines on the fly out of strange enemies, stranger friends, mysterious locations, and a giant deck of mostly awesome items – it’s wonderful. But it can just as easily descend into a sloggy morass of digging through card decks, juggling a few too many die roll modifiers, making on-the-fly RAW rulings, and cycling through Quests that just aren’t all that interesting or are occasionally impossible. Playing solo, it’s no big deal to just pack it in and try again later. But entertaining a group with this game can be a perilous undertaking because it’s so touchy, volatile, and may not live up to many gamers’ expectations.

As for the replayability concerns – take a hike. Most board gamers today don’t play games more than 2-3 times before their next shipment shows up anyway. There’s plenty of game here and if you are a fucking mental marvel and can memorize the encounters in the location guide, why are you wasting that talent on board games? The game comes with TWO location books so you can mix it up, and there is an expansion (Vile Invaders) that adds even more, included a kind of goofy but fun resource gathering and crafting element. Gilded Skull provided me with the base game and the expansion, and I’m glad to have played the game with the additional material. More is better here.

So here’s the deal. Dark Venture is a risky design despite its foundation in trope-y, standardized concepts. It doesn’t require the commitment or study that Magic Realm does, but like that masterpiece it creates a fantasy world at the table. Not just a scenario, not just a setting. The NPC mechanisms, the location descriptions with CYOA elements, and the gonzo artwork combine to create a sense that each session is building this “Darkgrange” setting each time. This is absolutely fantastic, ambitious, and sometimes it’s mind blowing. Other times, the sloppier elements derail it and make you wish that there was a second edition already available. Regardless, I absolutely love the way this game creates a unique environment, and it is a welcome change from games that strain so hard to create a very specific, stable, and familiar setting without anything wild or unexpected going on from game to game.

But to get there, you’ve got to put up with a rulebook that ain’t great in any sense of the word, a fairly arcane sense of information design, and more vagaries than some gamers are going to be comfortable with adjudicating. I’m willing to do this because in exchange Dark Venture is offering me a unique, bespoke world every time I play it. Even though its format is bog standard, there’s nothing conventional about its fantasy and I’m fine with shrugging at some of the foibles that might sink a game with a lesser agenda.

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Sometime in the early 1980s, MichaelBarnes’ parents thought it would be a good idea to buy him a board game to keep him busy with some friends during one of those high-pressure, “free” timeshare vacations. It turned out to be a terrible idea, because the game was TSR’s Dungeon! - and the rest, as they say, is history. Michael has been involved with writing professionally about games since 2002, when he busked for store credit writing for Boulder Games’ newsletter. He has written for a number of international hobby gaming periodicals and popular Web sites. From 2004-2008, he was the co-owner of Atlanta Game Factory, a brick-and-mortar retail store. He is currently the co-founder of and as well as the Editor-in-Chief of Miniature Market’s Review Corner feature. He is married with two childen and when he’s not playing some kind of game he enjoys stockpiling trivial information about music, comics and film.

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Shellhead replied the topic: #306791 02 Feb 2020 09:25
I definitely see the parallels between Dark Venture and Magic Realm, and I find it fascinating that one game accomplishes nearly as much as the other with such a brief rule book.
After two major revisions, Magic Realm leaves no rule uncovered, and still offers an impressive design where the rules and components are tightly integrated with the setting.

Magic Realm also offers an engaging and tactical combat system that gives careful consideration to factors like weight, weapon length, shield placement, and speed.

Dark Venture skimps on the rules, even requires a bit of hand-waving, and offers a straightforward dicefest of a combat system. But I think Dark Venture rises above Magic Realm with a richer, stranger setting, and the quests drive more of a sense of narrative.

Now that I have both games, I can see Dark Venture getting more play due to accessibility. Magic Realm has a formidable setup time, and the rules nearly equal D&D 3.5 in complexity.
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Josh Look replied the topic: #306794 02 Feb 2020 11:20
Aside from the setting, the most compelling thing about Dark Venture is how is asks players to be both an active participant in its world and to be immersed in it, and to play a role in shaping it. By and large, you’re choosing what locations and characters populate this strange setting and then interacting with them as your character. Some of that is linked with trying to find the right people/places for VPs, but some of it is done out of the curiosity to see what happens. Its a total unique dynamic that really separates it out from any other adventure game out there.
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Pugnax555 replied the topic: #306886 06 Feb 2020 11:20
The creator just put the surplus Kickstarter copies up on their backerkit site. $65 shipped in the US with the expansion (custom dice are something like $12 extra). Looking forward to trying this.
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Legomancer replied the topic: #306888 06 Feb 2020 15:26
Anyone going to ConnCon in Stamford CT who is interested, I have a copy (they accidentally sent me an extra) in the auction starting at $30.
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Dr. Mabuse replied the topic: #306897 07 Feb 2020 02:21
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jeb replied the topic: #307117 14 Feb 2020 12:13
I snagged a copy from BackerKit. There's like 20 left, get your FOMO here, folks.
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southernman replied the topic: #307145 15 Feb 2020 18:19
I saw this thread a week or two ago and it sounded like a game I'd have fun with and that (possibly) both my fighty group and euro group will play it, then I noticed a copy + expansion had appeared in the UK Math Trade last week. Short story is now I only own electronic copies of Twilight Struggle, but Dark Venture + expansion is in the post on its way here.
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Shellhead replied the topic: #307182 17 Feb 2020 10:36
An old friend was back in town, and dropped by to play a game of Dark Venture. I told him about it when I got the game, so he was looking forward to trying it. And he did play Magic Realm once, with a more experienced player guiding him through the turns. Setup was easy and only took a few minutes, but the game took over two hours to play because we had to pause a few times to look up specific rules. We played in competitive mode, as I suspect that or solitaire is the intended way to play the game and co-op might make it too easy.

The game was enjoyable. We explored locations and got in some fights with various other inhabitants. Seriously weird stuff happened, especially when my friend's character dropped all his gear, turned into a monster, and fought another monster. There were also ghosts, time travelers, and a robot. Late in the game, we both got knocked unconscious a couple of times, and his monstrous form had a low Mind stat so he ended up missing out his last two turns due to bad rolls that left him unconscious. It is a bit of a hassle every time an NPC or monster shows up, because you have to set up their stats on a card and fish their starting equipment out of the equipment deck. And the table got cluttered and crowded after a while due to additional sites and NPCs staying in play. I was significantly behind for most of the game, then managed to accomplish two Heroic Quests in the last four turns and took the lead. My friend was disappointed at losing his last two turns, but admitted that he couldn't have caught up with me in those last two turns. Overall, we both really liked Dark Ventures.