Back in Episode 53, I was the first one to get the ‘podcast origin story’ treatment, with Colby. Perhaps he knew even then that he wanted to get rid of me so he thought he’d get mine out of the way first. I decided to pass the torch to Cory Bullock with an interview, because I’ve grown to know him pretty well and figured people would like another peek behind the curtain of Summoner Wars.
We started out by talking about the usual stuff from earlier origins stories: how he started gaming, where he’s from, and so on. Just as I started playing traditional card games and chess with my father, Cory’s dad was an old school Avalon Hill fan who later introduced him to CCGs. I played MtG, but he’s mostly just aware of it and the literature surrounding it; we talked about how we're both 'Red' players. We both cut our teeth on Pokémon. He played a bit of Decipher’s Star Wars CCG. Cory continues to play A Game of Thrones LCG in addition to Summoner Wars. We briefly touch on console games, such as Ogre Battle 64.
But I wanted to know who he really was, so I turned to one of the most common questions I got asked by people in high school, right after “what sport do you play?”
I’ve seen Michael Barnes posit that typical BGGers are more likely to listen to Weird Al than the general public. I’d lump Monty Python and perhaps Jonathan Coulton songs in there too. Barnes sees similar links to the Ameritrash movement and a predilection for punk and metal. Do Wargamers listen to Jazz and Chess players Classical? If the only board games in your house are Monopoly and Apples to Apples are you more likely to listen exclusively to the top 40? Is there a connection between my older sister introducing me to both Pearl Jam’s Vitalogy and Magic the Gathering in the same year? I started to wonder if smaller publishers are staffed with people more likely to listen to alternative or independent music. A little while ago I suggested this as a podcast topic to Colby Dauch, but he declined it because he just hits buttons on his PandoraPad or whatever.
So, mid-interview, I dropped a surprise nuke on Cory. “Top 5 favorite albums of all time. Go.” He was caught off guard, so I picked some of mine while he thought about it. But I quickly realized that yes, I did ask him a hard question, since I was neglecting some stuff from later in the alphabet as I glanced at my music folder.
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CAKE – Daria from Fashion Nugget (but really, I like the whole album, and you’re more likely to have heard The Distance from that album. I listen to the Cake discography on most solo road trips).
I also really like Nirvana’s unplugged album.
Here are songs from each of Cory’s top 5 albums, in I think no particular order:
And then I asked him what his favorite Summoner Wars album is. If his debut was working on Cloaks and Jungle Elves, (let’s say that the JE are the A side, and Cloaks are B), was that the work he’s most proud of? While excellent, he said that he didn’t have a sophomore slump – he really liked the work done on the VG/FK reinforcements. And I pointed out that the Master Set* came out really well, and it was our 3rd album together. We marveled at it, and then went on to talk about a lot of Summoner Wars stuff…
*In hindsight, I prefer to think of the reinforcements as a solid EP, while the Master Set was some crazy 2 or 3 disc set that managed to be good, such as Melon Collie and the Infinite Sadness by Smashing Pumpkins. Again, showing my age here.
Even thought it didn’t show up on my list, there was definitely a time during testing where I’d listen to Combat Baby by Metric on repeat while staring at sideways boards in VASSAL.