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AP and BSG: Fuck shit balls
All I could think the entire time was how much they were destroying this beautiful game. Even while playing it, I was thinking about how great the game was but how it was being raped and murdered by these AP stooges. My wife was looking at me in askance by the halfway point and I was mostly helpless despite being relatively straightforward about the problem. I asked them if we could go faster and made absolutely sure everyone was crystal clear on the rules. Instead, they picked up their skill cards. Read every one of them in its entirety every single time they pulled skill cards. Yes. That repair card still does the same fucking thing it did before, the last 100 times you fucking picked one up. There's a couple minutes thrown away *every time* they got cards. They bickered between each other about completely meaningless shit. They continually broke the rules about specific card talk. They took total fucking no brainer efficiency decisions and agonized over them forever, even when it was 100% clear we had a revealed cylon and there were right and wrong decisions (I had taken out the sympathizer rules for a first game to speed play).
I can't believe that anyone defends AP players over on TOS. That is such a bunch of fucking beardy stupidass horseshit. How can anyone sit at a table with someone like this? What is wrong with these people? How can you suck the fun out of a game that is so amazingly fucking awesome? I almost even called the game 2/3 of the way through from time, despite BSG being completely unsuitable for early endings. Even as the god damn game went to the wire with a nail biting last die roll finish win to the humans, the mood was like we were being let out of prison between my wife and I.
On the plus side, BSG is totally and completely amazing and my wife's first comments to me as we left the house were basically "I can see how that game is totally great if we weren't playing for 5 hours till 2 in the morning. We need to play again." Nice.
Why can't I live around you guys, so I don't have to do shit like wargame with some Christian dude from TOS I don't feel comfortable swearing or using the lord's name in vain in front of or play BSG with a bunch of AP fun murdering fuckers?
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I have to say, though....I had no idea BSG could be killed by AP. I was irritated by the fact that the flavor text on the cards was always the same, but I figured it was that way because (1) it's only about the color and numbers and (2) was designed as such precisely to prevent AP from ever being an issue. I had no idea that someone could really agonize over more than 2 or 3 actions in the game at all.
That sounds brutal. But it *is* a heck of a game, nonetheless!
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What's TOS?
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But AP? I didn't think it was possible. I'm much relieved now that it is possible and idiots also live on planet Galactica
ps TOS is that other site
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No, no learning curve for these bright bulbs, no sir. They are thouroughly convinced that a little extra time and their great intellect is all that's needed to prove to the rest of the players that they can beat them at a game they have never played before.
Fun? I thought we played games to see which of us is the smartest.
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You MUST strictly enforce BSG's table talk rules.
That being said, I hate AP and it drives me crazy. Sure, you can increase your chances of winning. Is it worth it if you remove a lot of the fun factor for other players through your slow play? Is it worth it to drag the game out an extra 20 minutes, cutting 20 minutes of game time for the evening? For some people, winning the game is the thing. I like to win too, but if I had to take drastically longer turns than the other player to do so, what does that prove, other than I am more dedicated to winning than they are?
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very different from 4+ player games, but not a bad experience at all
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I'm surprised by all the reports about heavy damage to Galactica, and I'm quite surprised (apart from the Cylon reveal effect) by it. The military side is not the hardest part, we find.
Yesterday we played with only Starbuck's engineering skill. I think the only repair was me fixing the ftl. There were two damaged vipers due to some crisis card and we never bothered to fix them.
Maybe it changes if Cylons reveal early and press the attacks hard.
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Yeah - we had a 5-player game last week and both the cylons declared well before halftime and they gave us a bloody pasting.I'm looking forward to trying the game with less than 6- we have played with 6 both times. A four player game with 1.5 cylon seems a LOT more winnable. 6 player with 2.5 cylons is tough, and I think 5 player with 2 cylons would be equally tough. We also keep randomly having the engineer dude be a cylon which is tough because 1. its hard to repair things and 2. blue cards are great for the cylon once revealed because they are so rare on the crisis cards - the engineer discards down to three as a cylon and keeps three big blue cards.
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