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The Lord of the Rings: Journeys in Middle-earth
tl;dr: app driven cooperative LotR game with a map and minis. I kinda need this to be good, but not sure after reading through the news post. It doesn't look like it's just a re-skinned Mansions/Arkham/Descent, but I've only played Mansions. The card play they describe does seem a bit worrying, how you draw them randomly to look for successes (ignoring the rest of the card) but can sometimes do something to activate a card from the deck (presumably you get to go through it when you're not drawing maybe, which just means too much shuffling). Anyhow, maybe one of you guys with ties to FFG can add some color to this.
But if it's good, my son would love this...
Michael Barnes wrote: ....Seriously though...why would I play this over the Knizia game from 20 years ago that is still the definitive LOTR game?
Because you and me are the only people left in the world who want to play it !
BTW, Sauron was the best expansion for it - baaaaad.
The description of this game makes it seem like it might be cool. However I am leery of games that require an app. Especially an app for content.
A more legit question than the one about Knizia's game is "Why would I want to play this over the recent LotR computer game, Shadows of Mordor?" I think that's what it was called, anyway. If your going to need a computer to play a game then use a computer game to play a game.
repoman wrote: Now if they'd have just been able to use the Warhammer setting then we be talkin'! Amiright??!!
I don’t think anyone has express disinterest over the setting, Jeff, only that there already are co-ops that use it that some folks (certainly not me) are still happy with. The response, or least mine, is that this does seem to be some new iteration of one of FFG’s weaker systems, either Descent of MoM 2.0. They sell though, so I get it.
And yeah, an app is an unfortunate inclusion in any situation, but if it’s a new game in the MoM system, I’m not even going to give this game the time of day. The Descent/Imperial Assual app is pretty good and does make the game better, but MoM 2.0 was too much app. I felt the game had no need to be on the table.
repoman wrote: Barnes' comment clearly expresses a level of disdain for the LotR setting.
Can’t really deny that it’s a crowded market, especially the co-op fantasy tactical skirmish one. That it’s coming from FFG makes it even more repetitive. Also, so what if he doesn’t get hyped for a new LOTR game? Nobody has to, just as you don’t need to get hyped for a new 40k game. Most of us like the source material, but I know I personally already have a LOTR game that I’d be happy to play for various situations. Even without the app, this is a hard sell.
What follows is an actual transcript of the meeting in which FFG came up with the idea for Journeys in Middle-Earth...
“Alright, fellas, the hype on Imperial Assault is really hitting a wall, Descent is practically dead, what have you got for me?”
“We could do what we usually do with our designs, strip them down a bit and put it in a new setting?”
“I liked that idea the last 49 times we did it, and whaddayaknow, I like it now, too. Where are we putting this thing?”
“Nah, that’s too close to Mansions of Madness, and we just put Arkham 3rd edition out, I want to wait a couple of weeks before we start planning our next cannibalization of that brand.”
“Imperial Assault 2.0?”
“Good lord, man, haven’t you read the news? SJWs are ruining Star Wars. Also, this X-Wing 2.0 thing hasn’t exactly been met with high praise.”
“Android? Haha, just kidding, even we don’t care about that one anymore. How about Terrinoth? Maybe Mansion of Madness in Terrinoth? Could even just make Descent again under a different name.”
“Oooh, that’s not a bad idea. I’m getting turgid just thinking about how bland we go. No, no. Needs more nerd bait.”
“Lord of the Rings?”
“YES. YES. That’s it. No one will ever notice that we already publish about 12 other fantasy co-op games, 3 other co-op skirmish games, and 2 co-op games set in Middle-Earth. Never mind the 800 fantasy co-op games our parent company, Asmodee, publishes.”
The remaining portion of the meeting consisted of maniacal laughter, doing lines off of a first-run War of the Ring Collector’s Edition, and one lone voice who suggested bringing back Discwars with the Star Wars IP who, sadly, was again laughed out of the room.
repoman wrote: A more legit question than the one about Knizia's game is "Why would I want to play this over the recent LotR computer game, Shadows of Mordor?" I think that's what it was called, anyway. If your going to need a computer to play a game then use a computer game to play a game.
I though it was so that you and your friends could play the same boardgame together, in the same room. If you're playing solo, though, you're right. I've played Mansions of Madness solo a few times, and for me it's a mediocre gaming experience. Some folks I know will play MoM, but aren't the least bit interested in a multiplayer computer game.
Either way, unless this game does something revolutionary with the app, I'm going to steer clear.
So...what are you getting at, Jeff?