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Cole Wehrle's Oath / yeh I wish his oath was not to dink about endlessly

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16 Oct 2019 11:47 #302527 by Not Sure

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mc wrote: Don't know when it's coming but Cole Wehrle's new leder games project is going to be a must for me. A historiography inspired thing about the ebb and flow of history - both what happens but also what is remembered - where each new game is dependent on the ones that have already been played. ... I recognise the potential vanity of it and the possibility that it just doesn't work , but the idea sounds like so much my bag it's like the stitching holding it together.



So they've started releasing actual info about this now. Cole has begun his designer diary. It's called Oath: Something Something. Still keen.


Looks like a pure shelf toad to me, especially with the historical meta-game stuff. I doubt I'll ever get to to play it enough for that stuff to matter.

It's an ambitious project for sure, so I'm interested. Supporting people pushing the edges of things is okay with me. It can go in the toad garden.
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16 Oct 2019 12:00 #302528 by Gary Sax
Where is he posting the developer diaries? Leder games?

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16 Oct 2019 12:13 #302529 by Not Sure

Gary Sax wrote: Where is he posting the developer diaries? Leder games?


BGG: boardgamegeek.com/thread/2291265/designe...ary-1-whats-all-then
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16 Oct 2019 12:22 #302530 by Gary Sax
Yeah, I'll buy it but I'm skeptical tbh. Wehrle is on my autobuy for now.
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16 Oct 2019 12:26 #302531 by Not Sure

Gary Sax wrote: Yeah, I'll buy it but I'm skeptical tbh. Wehrle is on my autobuy for now.


Same. This could definitely be his hot mess. But for me, he's the most interesting designer working right now.
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16 Oct 2019 15:39 #302538 by mc
Haha. Such skepticism and we'll all have a copy.
No idea if this will be the deal, but I imagine it will essentially be a scenario based game where the scenario is setup by the previous game - with the ability to still play at any count, and of course to just reset if you want. Hopefully the game play is good. Given the designer there's a good chance of that.
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20 Oct 2019 00:28 - 20 Oct 2019 00:36 #302596 by Gary Sax
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21 Oct 2019 11:45 #302614 by Not Sure
Interesting stuff. That thread actually gives me some hope, since it sounds like a lot of the game is more scaled back than the initial explanation led me to believe.

Might be time to start up an Oath thread for this chatter.

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21 Oct 2019 23:22 #302644 by Gary Sax
You're right, moved most of those messages here. Was being lazy.
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22 Oct 2019 13:14 - 22 Oct 2019 13:14 #302663 by Shellhead
In that Twitter thread, Cole says that the game might be available in the first quarter of 2020, or less than six months from now. But he hasn't started playtesting yet, so even third quarter of next year might be optimistic.
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22 Oct 2019 14:00 #302666 by Gary Sax

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22 Oct 2019 15:18 #302672 by mc
As in, you don't believe it will be ready, or you have changed your mind on purchasing? Heh.

I seem to remember Root followed a similar kind of pattern, but I'm probably wrong.
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22 Oct 2019 15:33 #302673 by Gary Sax
I'd be shocked if it was ready, I'm still going to buy it.
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22 Oct 2019 20:00 #302685 by Not Sure
Still on autobuy for me, but I'd also be amazed if it's ready in that timeframe.

But yeah, I remember Root going into playtesting, having a huge rewrite of the card mechanic in playtesting, and still basically making its release date.

Maybe there's enough already there to hit the date.

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23 Oct 2019 12:42 #302705 by cdennett
Leder Games will likely run the Kickstarter for Oath before the game is really done, and then finish it afterwards. You can look at both the last Vast and Root expansions as indication of that. So that time frame may be a "ready for KS" statement, not balanced, polished, and ready for the printers.
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