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Far better than that Final 5 BS from the show IMHO.
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jason10mm wrote: Lovecraft works pretty well as a theme because you could have players go mad or discover their Deep One lineage and switch sides versus being a cultist from the get go.
Far better than that Final 5 BS from the show IMHO.
And it’s free and people love it.
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You can not divorce Lovecraft’s concept of hybridization from pure racism. Period. He was a white New Englander that viewed “foreigners” as monstrous, slimy, and degenerate subhuman creatures. It’s all about white fear of miscegenation and discovering that your white European bloodline is “tainted” or “corrupted”...this is as straight up on the nose racist as it gets, sorry but the fish people don’t hide it very well.
Because of this, this game is founded on racist concepts. I know most white board gamers will shrug and and lay out a wide range of feeble excuses for buying this game or continuing to play Arkham Horror LCG or whatever but it’s all just another example of how so much of this hobby is still white boys club. “Aw shucks, well you know racism was common back in those days and now he’s dead and I sure do love Shub-Niggurath!”
HP Lovecraft is “geek” culture’s Birth of a Nation.
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Sagrilarus wrote: Now y’all have me looking at the human card and thinking they’re throwing a sieg heil. Thanks for that.
Pre WW2 Americans used to do the Bellamy salute (the sieg heil) during the pledge of alliegance. So in a 1930s set game it has no connection to nazis.
Kinda like how the "ok" hand gesture was 100% normal and acceptable until twitter suddenly said it was not.
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*edit* I took out a second paragraph because upon reflection it wasn't a conversation I was super interested in having.
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Let it be known that I am a huge BSG the board game fan. I’ll also be the first to state that to get the most out of it it needs a fairly curated setup depending on the player count. But that’s not what we are here to talk about.
I am not nearly as down on the report as a lot of people seem to be. It’s been a long time since the BSG board game came out. If they tune the rules well a reprint could be decent. It will also be more accessible than BSG is currently. Not saying The Arkham Files is a better setting than BSG but it sure is more approachable to a large chunk of the gamer community at this point.
The art looks bad. Some folks should tell them that it’s bad. If you look at the Arkham Files or Android settings both of FFG’s primary settings at this point they are very inclusive. Male and female characters of color and varied ethnicity. Gay, lesbian and trans characters. At this point I would chill it up to just missing something and not laziness or malice. Don’t excuse it but let’s look at their history a bit.
I won’t be in a rush to pick it up. I have all of BSG. The cutdown in content is its stalling point for me. I would struggle to play core BSG at this point with out all the added skill cards from the expansions.
It’s a 13 year old game at this point. I hope they have some new wrinkles for it.
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Bernie wrote: The art looks bad. Some folks should tell them that it’s bad. If you look at the Arkham Files or Android settings both of FFG’s primary settings at this point they are very inclusive. Male and female characters of color and varied ethnicity. Gay, lesbian and trans characters. At this point I would chill it up to just missing something and not laziness or malice. Don’t excuse it but let’s look at their history a bit.
I'm not convinced that a game set in the '1920s or '1930s should be concerned with representation of gay, lesbian, and trans characters, given that such folks would likely have been deep in the closet as a matter of self-preservation. Sure, the setting is a fictional version of that time period, but it's not intended to be an alternate reality.
EDIT: And since the subject matter of the game is probably not directly addressing any character's sexual orientation, the players should feel free to decide for themselves which characters swing which way.
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