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Clash of Cultures- GROSS OUT

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28 Mar 2016 11:28 #224950 by san il defanso
I'm a little baffled how a game expansion could go from brand new to out of print in less than a year. Like, was it just that big a flop? I have a hard time believing that, because no game has its plug pulled that quickly. The same fate seems to be befalling the Merchants & Marauders expansion, which is a shame, because that's also a very good expansion.

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28 Mar 2016 12:15 #224954 by Gary Sax
There's something pretty fucked up going on at Z-man, IMHO. A lot of their shit is even returning to designers. Look at Portal, they took back their stuff from Z-man (Robinson) and are doing their own game of the year edition this year.

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28 Mar 2016 12:58 #224957 by LazarusTNT

Gary Sax wrote: There's something pretty fucked up going on at Z-man, IMHO. A lot of their shit is even returning to designers. Look at Portal, they took back their stuff from Z-man (Robinson) and are doing their own game of the year edition this year.


My game got sent back, but another publisher asked me to send it to them if it got rejected. Within a week of that happening, that same publisher asked us to make some smallish changes and test it out. I'm really jazzed and hoping it gets printed. Love to see it get made, because it is literally one of the best games I've played, and that opinion was shared by a ton of people I had test it out.

Back to CLASH....this is why we can't have nice things:

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28 Mar 2016 16:36 #224962 by Not Sure
Looks like you can have them for $58.00 and some clenching on Sunday around 10pm.

That sucks compared to the ~$30 it sold for before, but how important is it? If the answer is "less than $58", problem solved.

Sax is right, though. Something dumb is happening at Z-Man. I think both expansions were under-printed, and without the action to print more everyone who didn't get on it early is hosed. Of course, that brings out the completionists and hoarders even more. Then they get even scarcer and more expensive.

"Welcome to wargame-land" is about all I can say.
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28 Mar 2016 22:44 #224978 by dysjunct
All truly good things will eventually be available for ~35% off MSRP.

In the meantime, play all the other great games you never got around to, even if none of the cool kids cares.

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29 Mar 2016 12:31 #224987 by bfkiller
I'm surprised the Merchants & Marauders expansion is getting high prices. I've seen 6 or 7 copies on local shelves this past week for no more than $35 in dinky ol' Saskatchewan.

Clash of Cultures, on the other hand, I haven't seen in quite a while. I'm glad I picked that one up on impulse.

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06 Aug 2017 00:06 #252170 by Gary Sax
www.boardgamegeek.com/geekmarket/browse?...hing&objectid=146244

This shit blows my mind. Z-man is so fucked up, they are holding both of Marcussen's games too!
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06 Aug 2017 00:48 #252172 by Michael Barnes
DAMN, and they are moving at $150-$200 with sales < one month. This is one of those outlier situations that creates that kind of value.

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06 Aug 2017 02:02 - 06 Aug 2017 02:03 #252174 by Gary Sax
Some of those 100-150 don't even look complete or English!
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06 Aug 2017 08:03 #252176 by Da Bid Dabid
Good thing I was able to obtain it by fleecing some rube who was willing to give me a decent price. (Which has since been passed along for the same price).

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06 Aug 2017 20:22 #252183 by Stonecutter
I very seldom say this, but I am SO glad I bought both of these when I could. CoC and M&M are two of the best games of the last decade and both expansions are excellent and it's a shame that the expansions are so hard to find.
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06 Aug 2017 21:05 #252185 by Gary Sax
Yeah, I don't have M&M's expansion and in a perfect world I probably would. But I've only played M&M once so I can't be too mad.

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07 Aug 2017 01:35 #252195 by LazarusTNT
You remember Blood Feud in NY? That fucker is notorious for plastic death smell and gooey bits. I've owned (briefly) and dumped 3 of these because of the smell. I always ask the buyer and either their houses smell so bad they don't notice or they're lying. INSTANT headaches.

Feel for ya man.

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07 Aug 2017 11:20 #252204 by jpat
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I don't need it (got it as part of a trade when it was OOS before), but is M&M's expansion going out of stock again? MM has 15, Coolstuff is out.

Prices for CoC: C make me wonder sometimes about trying to sell it. I have and much enjoy the base game and have wanted to play with the expansion (which I got the first time around), but games are fungible enough that I'm not sure I'd miss it. Maybe I could at least sell off the broken plastic pieces that Z-man replaced for me and send my kids to college.

At some point, these games'll get pried away from the husk of Z-man, but it seems like it's going to be a while.
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07 Aug 2017 11:49 #252207 by phandec
The M&M expansion is readily available right now, in stores, at distributors and so on, so if anyone is looking for it they should be able to get it very reasonably.

Z-Man is now owned by the Asmodee conglomerate as of about a year or so ago, so it's possible that the CoC expansion could make a return at some point, too.

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