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bendgar wrote: Dumb boardgamer question:
Is this a game that you keep two fleshed out teams ready for occasional play -OR- do you concentrate on only one team and find other Blood Bowl players?

Pretty sure I know the answer and am in denial. I want BB but I'm not sure I have what it needs.

You can play it straight out of the box with the ready-made Orcs and Humans teams for one-off games, or tailor them a bit as Mr. White mentioned. The best experience though would be a league with multiple players and teams.

MattDP wrote: Although it seems the rules are the same, so there's no immediate need to "upgrade" except for the pretty bits. Still tempted though.

Mayhem and Event cards?

Almalik wrote: Also, when the hell is that new edition of Necromunda going to get released?

I know right? I think Necromunda is 3rd in line. After Blood Bowl, Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to come out, there as been info leaked about it, but I don't think anyone has seen anything. My guess is we won't see Necromunda until late 2017, if then.

metalface13 wrote:

Almalik wrote: Also, when the hell is that new edition of Necromunda going to get released?

I know right? I think Necromunda is 3rd in line. After Blood Bowl, Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to come out, there as been info leaked about it, but I don't think anyone has seen anything. My guess is we won't see Necromunda until late 2017, if then.

That's in line with what I have seen. I am extremely disappointed that Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to be Forgeworld only because that makes it very inconvenient to purchase for me.

barrowdown wrote: That's in line with what I have seen. I am extremely disappointed that Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to be Forgeworld only because that makes it very inconvenient to purchase for me.

The bulk of the specialist games are going to be under the Forgeworld banner I believe. Blood Bowl is going to get Skaven and Dwarf teams in plastic and then I think everything else is coming through Forgeworld and will be resin.

metalface13 wrote:

barrowdown wrote: That's in line with what I have seen. I am extremely disappointed that Adeptus Titanicus is supposed to be Forgeworld only because that makes it very inconvenient to purchase for me.

The bulk of the specialist games are going to be under the Forgeworld banner I believe. Blood Bowl is going to get Skaven and Dwarf teams in plastic and then I think everything else is coming through Forgeworld and will be resin.

My preference would be for all of the core games to have a starter that is released in widely available plastic instead of direct-from-Forgeworld resin. For most of the games, I guess it doesn't really bother me. Blood Bowl, Necromunda, Mordheim, I can buy a single squad/team/warband and call it good. If they plan on eventually pushing AT to full Epic, I want to easily get bulk troops without needing to pay the very high FW prices. I love FW sculpting, but when units are going to be 8mm that detail is going to be mostly lost.

Columbob wrote:

bendgar wrote: Dumb boardgamer question:
Is this a game that you keep two fleshed out teams ready for occasional play -OR- do you concentrate on only one team and find other Blood Bowl players?

Pretty sure I know the answer and am in denial. I want BB but I'm not sure I have what it needs.

You can play it straight out of the box with the ready-made Orcs and Humans teams for one-off games, or tailor them a bit as Mr. White mentioned. The best experience though would be a league with multiple players and teams.

MattDP wrote: Although it seems the rules are the same, so there's no immediate need to "upgrade" except for the pretty bits. Still tempted though.

Mayhem and Event cards?

The mayhem and event cards are likely the same as the ones in BB LRB6, just printed out in a nice format. These are optional cards and not part of the core game. Great fun in one-offs, kinda fun in league play, never seen them in tournaments.

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Skaven are looking good.


Not sure I'm a fan of these leaping troll slayers...

Ok, I'm thinking about a pre-order when it becomes available for the new Blood Bowl. I'm afraid that I've gotten hooked on the game after learning how to play and playing it on Xbox One via Blood Bowl 2. That required a bit of effort, however. Will short attention-span gamers climb aboard for the ride? I don't know. But, I had to read the lengthy rule book several times, watch strategy videos, learn about and visualize the various player types and skills on a pitch (and, I'm still not clear on all of the races), learn about how to maximize one's odds during game play, learn about how to build a roster, figure out how to "cage" the ball carrier, etc. You also have to truly love lady-luck in Blood Bowl and cope with whatever she decides to give out. My only fear is that there won't be a local league here in my area because of lack of interest. I may be stuck on Blood Bowl 2 instead of the table top. My one realization so far is that if you can't score a touchdown, then you just try to bash the other team as much as possible and hope to injure their players.

Some fantastic images of the game in this review.

www.mengelminiatures.com/2016/11/review-blood-bowl.html
(dude has never played the game before, so visit mainly for the pics.)

I'm tired of reviewers knocking the game because the rules are 'dated'. I get very fussy when I hear that.

the_jake_1973 wrote: I'm tired of reviewers knocking the game because the rules are 'dated'. I get very fussy when I hear that.

I find the BB rules and overall game design pretty amazing. But, it took me awhile to read through the rules to understand what was going on. I think the "dated comments" are coming because modern gamers aren't used to pouring through a detailed rule book and are used to more streamlined games--they also don't like D6's. Yet, there's so much payoff here. Once I broke through the rule barrier in BB, there was a huge payoff--this was a pleasant surprise. I'm now on to admiring the grand BB design for strategy, tactics, and team building. There are so many choices. I feel invested when a team member advances, gains a new skill, and, of course, dies.

This will probably get me some stick, but here goes. I just dont see it. It seems like you need to be someone into the minis and painting side of the hobby, but whats the game like without that? I mean, it seems like it could be fun but I'd just as soon throw some heroscape minis on a grid and use the PDF living rules. I guess the league and campaign thing is cool, but again, I dont see it as giving anything more than running a rotisserie baseball league, or an RPG. I mean if you have a group of people who will get together and commit to that kind of thing.

But mainly, when I look at the actual game, as a standalone thing, its got some tactics, and strategy, different special powers for players, a cool visual aesthetic, you chuck some dice and have some fun

So why would I not play Heroscape instead? Answer: I would play Heroscape instead, which does away with all the messing about modelling and painting, has loads of different units and variety, has tactics and strategy, variable maps and lovely looking minis and can play more than 2 players in an actual game. It has drafting rather than campaign rules, but there you go. It feels like Heroscape is more honest and isnt pretending to be something it isnt.

Blood Bowl looks kind of neat, like a lot of these GW games (still think if you take away the interest in the minis and painting theres not always quite so cool left behind), but I don't see the point of playing it over Heroscape. Just my opinion man

Bojack wrote: So why would I not play Heroscape instead?

Disclaimer: I've never played Heroscape.

You sort of answered your own question. You play it for the RPG/team building aspects (which while made magnitudes better with a larger group is perfectly feasible with just two players building their teams head-to-head over time) and the connection to the sports/humor theme of the game. I don't think BB is pretending to be anything, its pretty clear what it is trying to achieve. It also happens to be the most fun board game of all time when you do buy into its "schtick", which you are able to do with heroscape minis and a grid if you choose to do so.

Bojack- Take a look at Stoic's post above you it pretty much lays it out.

I'm now on to admiring the grand BB design for strategy, tactics, and team building. There are so many choices. I feel invested when a team member advances, gains a new skill, and, of course, dies.

That being said the game is best in league format. Which is also my biggest hesitation into buying into it (again). Finding opponents is the biggest issue in this hobby. Finding someone to play a one off is difficult (kids, jobs, yardwork, football, whatever get in the way of meeting up), finding several someones to play in a league might be impossible.

I picked up a guildball team this summer and have managed to play three times. I really enjoy X-wing, but the two local groups have fallen apart.

Although there is a pretty regular group playing 40K at my local group, so maybe the transition to BB could be possible.

Also the new range roller is stupid. But the themed dice, I do want a set of Orc dice.