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ACDC vs. Black Sabbath
MattLoter wrote: I can't believe so many of you philistines are backing ACDC...
I can't believe how many gullible people have fallen for the myth that Sabbath invented Metal.
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Hell yeah- winner of the West Coast Division (Black Flag vs. Dead Kennedys) versus the East Coast champion (Minor Threat versus Bad Brains)
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Also, Black Sabbath gets my vote. At least until Barnes mentioned Black Flag. I vote for Black Flag now.
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At best Black Sabbath invented gloom rock. To say the Sabbath invented Heavy Metal is just kind of weird.
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JonJacob wrote:
MattLoter wrote: I can't believe so many of you philistines are backing ACDC...
I can't believe how many gullible people have fallen for the myth that Sabbath invented Metal.
I am assuming that we are saying The Kinks invented heavy metal with the first heavy and fuzzy guitar riff (in a popularized song) on "You Really Got Me"
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So, Black Sabbath.
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Still, I'll choose twenty seconds of "Into the Void" riffin' over the entire AC-DC catalog.
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So I choose early period over later period. Hands down
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Vote: Black Sabbath
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You might even say I've been...thunderstruck.
(I'd punctuate that was a "YEAAAAHHHH" but we aren't talking about The Who. Yet.)
Vote: AC/DC
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I guess Bowie did it too, but RJD is no Bowie.
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The more important thing than the sound, to me at least, was the aura and the subject matter. AC/DC is party rock. Sex, drugs, and rock n' roll. Some vague renegade/rebel/outlaw stuff, but all of the above is pretty traditional rock stuff. Certainly nothing the Stones didn't completely cover in "Exile on Main Street".
But Sabbath...even though the Stones talked about the devil a couple of times and the obscure band Coven was writing directly about Satanic topics a couple of years earlier (and likely influenced Sabbath- they had a guy named Ozzy in their band too), that was really kind of the first time a band really went for an English gothic horror approach were evil is REAL and not just some kind of mascot for misbehaving. The song "Black Sabbath" demonstrates this better than anything. But more than that, Sabbath was one of the first bands to do songs about things like nuclear war, armageddon, and the politics surrounding them. They also had science fiction concepts ("Symptom of the Universe", "Iron Man") and their coverage of drug topics was definitely darker, grimmer, and more realistic. "Sweet Leaf" notwithstanding.
Look, AC/DC is a fine band. They've got at least one album's worth of GREAT rock songs, but everything else...umm...OK. Their singles were unstoppable, virtually every one including their later stuff like "Thunderstruck" and "Who Made Who" were brilliant rock n' roll. But really, once you get past "Whole Lotta Rosie", "TNT", "Back in Black", "Highway to Hell" and so on...it's all kind of lesser versions of similar songs. Unpretentious, sure. "Don't fix it if ain't broke", yeah. But ultimately, AC/DC does one thing extremely well.
But Sabbath, at least up until Dio, has so much more dynamism, power, and range. Ironically, they were just as working class as AC/DC but they wound up doing far, far more sophisticated music. Listen to "Symptom of the Universe"- they pretty much create the template for Discharge, Metallica, and Slayer right there in the opening riff. But then it falls into this jazzy acoustic thing.
I pretty much never want to put on an AC/DC record other than a greatest hits...but I'll listen to the first five Sabbath records straight in a row.
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