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This is part of a series of bloody matches to the death. Show support for your favorite game so it will do better in the fight. You can support it by writing why you think its the better game and more importantly by betting (i.e. voting for) it. Please make it clear for when I check the bets later. You have until Friday when I tally the bets and declare the winner. I will reserve my bet for any tie-breakers.

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TRASHDOME! Richard III v Warriors of God

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24 Nov 2014 10:20 #191327 by Mr. White
Regardless how this turns out, I do wish Columbia had gone with the original title and cover:


I understand they changed the name to Richard III because they were going to do a 'Shakespeare' trilogy with RIII, Julius Caesar, and some title that apparently never came out. Henry V maybe?

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24 Nov 2014 11:09 #191332 by Sagrilarus
Vote is for Warriors of God which I'm sure will surprise no one here.

Richard III is very good though, and I'd like to get another shot at it.

I think one of things that's really apparent here is the culture of origin of each game. Japanese culture is much more detail oriented, and Warriors of God's phase order has that in spades. Prepositioning troops prior to claiming new leaders, managing the risk of existing leaders dying, it's really a very impressive ordering of the tasks each turn so that the chess half of the game is every bit as interesting (and more challenging) as the maneuver and combat half.

Richard III is much more straightforward, much broader brush strokes. It's an American design. With luck I'll get another shot at this at Trashfest Mid-Atlantic this coming May, because I liked it.

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24 Nov 2014 13:05 #191341 by Msample
For me, although I have never played Richard III, I've logged probably 30 games of WoG, I can't imagine not voting for it.

Vote: WARRIORS OF GOD

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24 Nov 2014 13:11 - 24 Nov 2014 13:12 #191343 by JoelCFC25
Vote: Warriors of God

I only played Richard III once--and it was fine--but it's just the same old Columbia block game system grafted onto the Wars of the Roses with some period-specific tweaks. I'm content for Hammer of the Scots to be my favorite and only game from that system.
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24 Nov 2014 14:24 #191347 by Dr. Mabuse
Warriors of God.

I'm lukewarm on Columbia Games.

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24 Nov 2014 15:05 #191350 by Gary Sax

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24 Nov 2014 15:24 #191355 by Msample

JoelCFC25 wrote: Vote: Warriors of God

I only played Richard III once--and it was fine--but it's just the same old Columbia block game system grafted onto the Wars of the Roses with some period-specific tweaks. I'm content for Hammer of the Scots to be my favorite and only game from that system.


I think this sums up my feelings on Columbia in general. Their insistence on sticking to basically the same recipe pasted onto a different theme robs the designer of innovating enough to set the games apart from one another.

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25 Nov 2014 00:08 #191404 by jgriff
This isn't even close. Warriors of God is a much better game and is pretty unique in its approach. Richard III has a role as a shorter option to a 3hr Hammer of the Scots session but even then I'd generally rather play HotS for the same sort of game experience.....but better.

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01 Dec 2014 11:10 #191671 by Mr. White


6-0 for Warriors of God.

Though I figured WoG would win, Joan and I are surprised this was a clean sweep. I would have thought that RIII's quicker playtime would have given it the nod for _somebody_.

A few comments on Columbia's designs. I do agree that we could see more creative games out of the block system, but I kinda like their system. I suppose it's like how some dig the C&C or Attack Wings...lots of flavours of a similar system. So, playing an A-B-C block game is cool with me. But, yeah maybe if they published more titles they'd branch out the line a bit more.

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01 Dec 2014 19:17 #191728 by Sevej
Block system best feature is the border movement limit and command point dynamic... I hope they make a game that really capitalizes this.

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01 Dec 2014 23:12 #191733 by Sagrilarus
Joan wasn't surprised -- she talks to Jesus. She knew she had this one in the bag.

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02 Dec 2014 00:03 #191735 by Msample

Mr. White wrote: I would have thought that RIII's quicker playtime would have given it the nod for _somebody_.


Even if it goes the full 12 turns, WoG is tops a 3 hour game, and often much shorter.

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