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This is part of a series of bloody matches to the death. Show support for your favorite game so it will do better in the fight. You can support it by writing why you think its the better game and more importantly by betting (i.e. voting for) it. Please make it clear for when I check the bets later. You have until Friday when I tally the bets and declare the winner. I will reserve my bet for any tie-breakers.

Although you should be familiar with both games, there is no rule that says you have to have played both of them. The only rule in Trashdome is this;

Two games enter! One game leaves!

Trashdome: Nexus Ops vs Survive! Escape from Atlantis

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16 Dec 2022 09:03 - 16 Dec 2022 09:37 #337438 by sornars
We're back again, this time it's family game night and we're looking to play something instead of Risk. What do you choose?

Nexus Ops: Avalon Hill's classic from 2005 with a terrible reprint in 2012 by FFG

or

Survive! Escape from Atlantis: Parker Brother's classic first published in 1982 with an excellent reprint in 2012 by Stronghold Games (and then a few more recent versions since).

The family needs to game this holiday, what does the Trashdome say they should play?

Bonus question: I've never played with the Survive! expansions, do I need dolphins in my life?
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16 Dec 2022 09:08 #337439 by Jexik
Nexus Ops is tops.
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16 Dec 2022 09:08 #337440 by sornars
I'm going to vote for Survive! I know folks often don't appreciate its meanness but to me that's a feature not a bug. I also love how it's kind of hard to tell how to be as mean as possible thanks to the hidden points. The game is nothing but player interaction and hilarity. Played in the right spirit this game is amazing.

Nexus Ops is good but something about its complexity/theme makes it an odd duck for me. It's slightly too complicated for a true family game but not crunchy enough for any adults I game with. It's still a great game and one I wished I played more.

If anyone needs an actual holiday family game suggestion, Taboo! is my pick. The rules are super simple and everyone I've played with has a blast with it.
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16 Dec 2022 09:30 #337441 by dysjunct
Vote: NEXUS OPS. Simple and pure.
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16 Dec 2022 10:14 #337442 by hotseatgames
If the family can handle the extra complexity, Nexus Ops all the way. Otherwise Survive!
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16 Dec 2022 10:20 #337443 by Jackwraith
I think if you and the gang are the mindset of "family game", then Survive is probably the better pick, since it's less confrontational (no direct combat) even though it's still quite competitive (dumping family members into the water for the sharks.) Nexus Ops is a wargame. If the fam is into that, that's cool and that's the easy pick. Otherwise, Survive is the better choice.

If this is a Trashdome about which is the better family game, Survive. If you're talking which is the better game overall, Nexus Ops.
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16 Dec 2022 10:28 #337444 by sornars
I was trying to use the family game framing to justify comparing these two games but you've struck at the heart of the Trashdome; it's really about what you think the better game is. I still enjoy the discussion!

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16 Dec 2022 11:17 #337445 by Ah_Pook
Survive hits the table a hundred times more and generally everyone that I put it on front of loves it. Nexus Ops is obviously great too but I gotta give the nod to Survive, especially in a family context.
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16 Dec 2022 11:33 #337446 by Nodens
Another vote for Survive. Theme and overall appeal make this way easier to get played. Works as a drinking game.
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16 Dec 2022 11:34 #337447 by Smeagol
For a family game night it;s survive every time! Nexus ops is too much game for most families.

I have the original Surivie US release, and it's a super fun light game.

But for my game geek game night it's Nexus Ops all the way. I've never had anybody not like it, or ever had a bad game of it. It had all the right elements at the right time for my group. The bits are great with the glowing(ish) pieces, the theme is neat, it's the right amount of game (complexity) and the game doesn't overstay its welcome.

I'm on board with :

Family game night: Survive
Gamer Game Night: Nxus Ops.
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16 Dec 2022 12:41 #337448 by SuperflyPete
Escape From Atlantis/Survive, 100%, is the perfect game. It is flawless.

Nexus Ops is fun and all, but it’s no Survive.
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16 Dec 2022 12:54 #337449 by Rliyen
I like Nexus Ops, but I have such good memories of playing Survive! with my sister's college friends during Christmas.

Survive! hands down.
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19 Dec 2022 08:38 #337497 by Legomancer
I enjoy Survive, but I own Nexus Ops.
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19 Dec 2022 11:24 #337507 by Gregarius
Vote Survive.

I don't have anything to add to the discussions above, as they point out the merits of both very well.
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20 Dec 2022 06:29 #337523 by san il defanso
If Risk is what you're replacing, then Nexus Ops is the obvious choice. I like Survive well enough, but especially when playing with more players I think it's the sort of game it can be hard to win on purpose. I feel like there's just more latitude to actually play well in Nexus Ops.

I will also say that the 2012 FFG reprint of Nexus Ops is graphically not very nice looking, but it's basically the same game at least. I actually think it's only a little worse than the original 2011 Stronghold Survive, which I think is a pretty ugly game as well with lots of graphical issues of its own.

Vote: Nexus Ops
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