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This is part of a series of bloody matches to the death. Show support for your favorite game so it will do better in the fight. You can support it by writing why you think its the better game and more importantly by betting (i.e. voting for) it. Please make it clear for when I check the bets later. You have until Friday when I tally the bets and declare the winner. I will reserve my bet for any tie-breakers.
Although you should be familiar with both games, there is no rule that says you have to have played both of them. The only rule in Trashdome is this;
Two games enter! One game leaves!
Trashdome - Samurai Swords VS Fortress America
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This is part of a series of bloody matches to the death. Show support for your favorite game so it will do better in the fight. You can support it by writing why you think its the better game and more importantly by betting on it. End your first post in this thread with the title of the game you're placing a bet on (i.e. voting for) so its clear to me when reading it later. You have until Friday when I tally the bets and declare the winner. Counting expansions or not is entirely up to you just as playing with them or not is. I will reserve my bet for any tie-breakers.
Although you should be familiar with both games, there is no rule that says you have to have played both of them. The only rule in Trashdome is this;
Two games enter! One game leaves!
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I played SHOGUN/SAMURAI SWORDS recently and although I think it's OK, I don't think it's aged very well. In fact, I thought it was pretty boring. Ninja or not. The main problem is that the endgame conditions make the game artificially long and I also think the game lacks dynamism- it's a pretty vanilla DoaM behind the shoji screens.
F:A on the other hand has a really unique scenario, some cardplay, and some very cool thematic elements (like the partisans- WOLVERINES!). It also seems to be more reasonable in terms of length compared to the other Gamemaster games, and unlike SS or A&A, it still feels fresh and unique nearly 25 years later. I think time has borne out that it's the best of the series.
Not a complete washout for this one...it'll be tight. But I'm sticking with the patriotic choice, and that choice is FORTRESS: AMERICA.
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No, uh, this is a toughie because I haven't played either game in about 20 years. I can't really comment on the gameplay or units, aside from the ninja's awesomeness.
So I'll just vote based on what I do remember...
Fortress America's back-story intrigued me as a kid. I felt an invasion on American soil wasn't completely implausible, so I felt the stakes were high, even if imaginary. Plus this awesome site's name was obviously inspired by FA. Without this game what would it be called?? (United States of Ameritrash? Ameritrash the Beautiful? Team Ameritrash?)
My biggest memories of Samurai Swords are the plastic swords that determine turn order, bidding for the ninja, and I thought using rice as money was weird at the time.
My vote is for Fortress America.
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Samurai Swords
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NINJA GALAXY
NINJA BURGER
SPACE PIRATE AMAZON NINJA CATGIRLS
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES PIZZA POWER
These games also feature ninjas, and as such should appeal to your easy-to-please standards.
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Octavian and Bulwyf- you might also enjoy the following games:
NINJA GALAXY
NINJA BURGER
SPACE PIRATE AMAZON NINJA CATGIRLS
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES PIZZA POWER
These games also feature ninjas, and as such should appeal to your easy-to-please standards.
How 'bout some TICKET TO RIDE, Barnes? It's got America after all...
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I've played both several times and I actually disliked F:A. It always seemed that if you did not crush America quickly, then you ended up with partisans in your backyard and their Hand of Gawd lazerz! Shogun was far more fun and got more play with my friends.
Vote for: Shogun/Samurai Swords
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That's how America rolls, boss. And that's a good explanation of what happened with the Ameritrash Revolution, isn't it?
It's pretty easy to see where the factions are this time- Fortress: AT-loving website patriots who are voting for FORTRESS: AMERICA and those who have been seduced by a ninja into throwing their support behind the exotic and unamerican Far East setting of SHOGUN/SAMURAI SWORDS.
I mean come on, if that's all it takes is a ninja...how soon before NINJA CAYLUS lures you into damnation?
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I always thought fortress America was the worst of the series
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If only to represent the nostalgic formative years of my board game hobby, I'll vote for Shogun, though I'll understand if my vote doesn't count for not having played the other option.
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Vote: Awesome, aka Fortress: America
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Octavian and Bulwyf- you might also enjoy the following games:
NINJA GALAXY
NINJA BURGER
SPACE PIRATE AMAZON NINJA CATGIRLS
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES PIZZA POWER
These games also feature ninjas, and as such should appeal to your easy-to-please standards.
Shame on you Barnes. You of all people should recognize the difference between ninja-as-fluff-theme and ninja-that-fucking-assassinates-the-other-players.
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Octavian and Bulwyf- you might also enjoy the following games:
NINJA GALAXY
NINJA BURGER
SPACE PIRATE AMAZON NINJA CATGIRLS
TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES PIZZA POWER
These games also feature ninjas, and as such should appeal to your easy-to-please standards.
Bah! You're just bitter that I posted a negative review of Game Z on TOS because of it's lack of pajama wearing assassins.
Shogun might outstay it's welcome on the table sometimes, but you can see the writing on the wall an hour or so before the official results are in. At that point we call the game and declare a winner. When you consider the less scripted nature of Shogun's gameplay, that one fault just dosen't seem so important.
We're going to have to just agree to disagree here and label me a heretic. In my experience it's Shogun that's stood the test of time with better replayability and more frequent requests for table time.
-Will
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