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Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
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05 Apr 2011 21:02 - 05 Apr 2011 21:09 #93207
by Mr. Bistro
Replied by Mr. Bistro on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Corey K, even if he was hit by a train after BSG and nothing else came from him.
EDIT: Or hell, just the man's work on Shattered Empire,helping to turn a great game into the game, should have him win.
EDIT: Or hell, just the man's work on Shattered Empire,helping to turn a great game into the game, should have him win.
Last edit: 05 Apr 2011 21:09 by Mr. Bistro.
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05 Apr 2011 23:05 #93210
by Octavian
Replied by Octavian on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
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05 Apr 2011 23:58 #93211
by jeb
Replied by jeb on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Octavian wrote:
That is a cool way to think about it. Corey is more consistent. I hope to keep switching my vote as we revisit this poll in the years to come. I want nothing but success for these two.Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
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06 Apr 2011 00:50 #93212
by kookoobah
Replied by kookoobah on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Very tough. Both have huge hits (Rune Wars, Shattered Empires, Warrior Knights VS Fury of Dracula) and some big bombs too (BSG, Starcraft, Doom)
Kevin has a lot of games I'm just lukewarm on (AGoT, Descent, Arkham and CE) and these are games that are classics in the genre.
I'll go with Corey K, just by a hair. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Fury of Dracula, but our gaming group is BIG on DoaM and Corey hits it out of the park.
Kevin has a lot of games I'm just lukewarm on (AGoT, Descent, Arkham and CE) and these are games that are classics in the genre.
I'll go with Corey K, just by a hair. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Fury of Dracula, but our gaming group is BIG on DoaM and Corey hits it out of the park.
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06 Apr 2011 01:55 #93215
by jur
Replied by jur on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Octavian wrote:
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
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06 Apr 2011 08:45 #93216
by Dair
Replied by Dair on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Jur wrote:
Not necessarily. Is a one hit wonder with a great song better than a band that has consistently put out good material for a long period of time? I would take the band with a strong body of work even if none of their songs are as good as the one hit wonder's big hit.
Octavian wrote:
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
Not necessarily. Is a one hit wonder with a great song better than a band that has consistently put out good material for a long period of time? I would take the band with a strong body of work even if none of their songs are as good as the one hit wonder's big hit.
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06 Apr 2011 09:25 #93220
by Columbob
Replied by Columbob on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Really tough choice. I've had lots of fun with Cosmic, Arkham, Doom and Descent, but I've also had lots of fun with BSG, RuneWars, MoM, Death Angel, Warrior Knights (playing this tomorrow night hopefully)...I think what tilts this in Corey's favor is the beautiful and essential Shattered Empire.
VOTE: COREY
kookoobah wrote:
This is a Chris P design. I think Corey might have worked on the Storm of Swords expansion though.
VOTE: COREY
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Kevin has a lot of games I'm just lukewarm on (AGoT...)
This is a Chris P design. I think Corey might have worked on the Storm of Swords expansion though.
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06 Apr 2011 09:52 #93225
by SuperflyPete
Replied by SuperflyPete on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson, hands down. Corey is great from what I've played of his stuff, but Kevin's are brilliant. Cosmic? Arkham? Total wins.
I'd almost give it to Corey based on BSG alone, but Death Angel is a negative and the fact that of all the things he could've worked on, he did a "LCG" in Terrinoth and that was the death blow.
I'd almost give it to Corey based on BSG alone, but Death Angel is a negative and the fact that of all the things he could've worked on, he did a "LCG" in Terrinoth and that was the death blow.
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06 Apr 2011 11:50 #93247
by Octavian
Replied by Octavian on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Jur wrote:
Would it make a difference if some of the musician's best works are covers?
Octavian wrote:
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
Would it make a difference if some of the musician's best works are covers?
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06 Apr 2011 11:56 #93248
by Chapel
Replied by Chapel on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Jur wrote:
But only after they're dead. While they live everything they do will be scrutinized.
Octavian wrote:
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
But only after they're dead. While they live everything they do will be scrutinized.
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06 Apr 2011 11:56 #93249
by Space Ghost
Replied by Space Ghost on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Vote: Kevin Wilson -- thinking about this actually may have motivated me to write an article.
As for being covers, it depends. If it is Jimi Hendrix performing All Along the Watchtower, then the cover stands on its own.
As for being covers, it depends. If it is Jimi Hendrix performing All Along the Watchtower, then the cover stands on its own.
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06 Apr 2011 11:57 #93250
by Da Bid Dabid
Replied by Da Bid Dabid on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Despite the greatness that is Shattered Empire, the redesigns win out.
Vote: Kevin Wilson
Vote: Kevin Wilson
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06 Apr 2011 11:59 #93251
by Ska_baron
Replied by Ska_baron on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Gonna go with Cory on this one.
For now.
For now.
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06 Apr 2011 12:06 #93252
by jur
Replied by jur on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
Octavian wrote:
I'd say that it's a separate issue.
The whole point with covers/redesigns is originality, not consistency. You might argue that it's easier to achieve consistent highs by covering/redesigning, but then you finally judge the artist/designer on his originality.
But people like music for different reasons, so probably also in game design. Some like consistency (of a high level), others prefer genius.
Jur wrote:
Octavian wrote:
Tough choice, but I'll go with Corey K. He doesn't hit the highs Wilson does, but he also doesn't hit the lows.
I don't buy this line of reasoning. Do you judge painters and musicians by their best works or their whole oeuvre?
In the end, artists are remembered for their highs
Would it make a difference if some of the musician's best works are covers?
I'd say that it's a separate issue.
The whole point with covers/redesigns is originality, not consistency. You might argue that it's easier to achieve consistent highs by covering/redesigning, but then you finally judge the artist/designer on his originality.
But people like music for different reasons, so probably also in game design. Some like consistency (of a high level), others prefer genius.
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06 Apr 2011 12:20 #93254
by Octavian
Replied by Octavian on topic Re:Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson
I think a lot of people like both. A lot of the votes here, including mine, have had "by a hair" or similar qualifiers attached.
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