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Re: What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
17 Sep 2024 11:53 #342922
by Joebot
Replied by Joebot on topic What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
A bit of a Red Raven Games two-fer here.
First up was their new one that just shipped from their Gamefound campaign -- Creature Caravan. It's got a dice-as-worker-placement mechanism, very similar to their older game Artifacts, Inc. You roll some dice, use the dice to trigger some actions, all while trying to move your caravan across a map. You can add fun, goofy creature cards to your caravan, which give you more possible actions to spend your dice on. The creatures themselves have interesting combinations that you can try to exploit.
The first time I played with the whole family (four of us), it went pretty slow. You take your turns simultaneously, but even so, there was a lot of waiting for my wife (who is very analysis paralysis-prone) to parse her growing collection of cards and figure out how to spend her dice. The hardest part was simply the newness of it, and not knowing how to properly value the different cards and their options. There are a LOT of cards, and they do a lot of different things. I played a second time with just my son, and it went a lot faster, and things really clicked for both of us.
Because the turns are simultaneous, it does have a "multi-player solitaire" vibe to it, where you're just heads down, doing your thing. There is a market board and a combat board, where you compete for spots. Those boards do create some interaction, and you have to really keep an eye on those. My only other complaint is that I wish there was some player interaction on the map itself, like maybe you could cut off another caravan and force them to take another route. But there's nothing like that at all.
Overall, I think there's a good game in here, but it takes a few plays to get a handle on the cards. Also, it probably goes without saying for Red Raven Games, but the production / artwork / components are all really great.
And then I played a solo game of Sleeping Gods: Primeval Peril. My family bounced pretty hard off the original Sleeping Gods. It was just too big and too complex. We tried it as a campaign, but didn't get to play it very often, so we'd have to relearn the rules every time we pulled it out. I ended up getting rid of it.
So then when Red Raven came out with this stripped down, simpler, two-player version Primeval Peril, I thought that might have more of a chance of getting played. My and son and I tried it a few months ago and we got our ASS KICKED within like 20 minutes. My son was so frustrated, he swore never to play it again. I finally broke the game out again this week and played it solo, and I had a great time. The thing I learned that first game is that combat is absolutely punishing, and sometimes it's best to avoid it if you can. The game has a built-in timer, and I lost when I ran out of time.
I don't know how much replayability there is. I know there's a big chunk of the map I never explored. I would guess there's at least 3 or 4 games worth of content in there. I definitely plan to try it again, and take a different route. Also, I think the game works better solo than 2-player, as you don't have to fuss about with who's the "active player," and which characters do you have access to. It just gets rid of all that. Good game! I'm anxious to try it again.
First up was their new one that just shipped from their Gamefound campaign -- Creature Caravan. It's got a dice-as-worker-placement mechanism, very similar to their older game Artifacts, Inc. You roll some dice, use the dice to trigger some actions, all while trying to move your caravan across a map. You can add fun, goofy creature cards to your caravan, which give you more possible actions to spend your dice on. The creatures themselves have interesting combinations that you can try to exploit.
The first time I played with the whole family (four of us), it went pretty slow. You take your turns simultaneously, but even so, there was a lot of waiting for my wife (who is very analysis paralysis-prone) to parse her growing collection of cards and figure out how to spend her dice. The hardest part was simply the newness of it, and not knowing how to properly value the different cards and their options. There are a LOT of cards, and they do a lot of different things. I played a second time with just my son, and it went a lot faster, and things really clicked for both of us.
Because the turns are simultaneous, it does have a "multi-player solitaire" vibe to it, where you're just heads down, doing your thing. There is a market board and a combat board, where you compete for spots. Those boards do create some interaction, and you have to really keep an eye on those. My only other complaint is that I wish there was some player interaction on the map itself, like maybe you could cut off another caravan and force them to take another route. But there's nothing like that at all.
Overall, I think there's a good game in here, but it takes a few plays to get a handle on the cards. Also, it probably goes without saying for Red Raven Games, but the production / artwork / components are all really great.
And then I played a solo game of Sleeping Gods: Primeval Peril. My family bounced pretty hard off the original Sleeping Gods. It was just too big and too complex. We tried it as a campaign, but didn't get to play it very often, so we'd have to relearn the rules every time we pulled it out. I ended up getting rid of it.
So then when Red Raven came out with this stripped down, simpler, two-player version Primeval Peril, I thought that might have more of a chance of getting played. My and son and I tried it a few months ago and we got our ASS KICKED within like 20 minutes. My son was so frustrated, he swore never to play it again. I finally broke the game out again this week and played it solo, and I had a great time. The thing I learned that first game is that combat is absolutely punishing, and sometimes it's best to avoid it if you can. The game has a built-in timer, and I lost when I ran out of time.
I don't know how much replayability there is. I know there's a big chunk of the map I never explored. I would guess there's at least 3 or 4 games worth of content in there. I definitely plan to try it again, and take a different route. Also, I think the game works better solo than 2-player, as you don't have to fuss about with who's the "active player," and which characters do you have access to. It just gets rid of all that. Good game! I'm anxious to try it again.
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18 Sep 2024 11:35 #342928
by Virabhadra
Replied by Virabhadra on topic What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
Sleeping Gods has enough rules overhead as it is, and there's no reason (open to being told otherwise) to hamstring yourself by only having access to half of the crew on your turn with the multiplayer rules. My partner and I use the solo rules and make decisions collectively; it works so much more smoothly.
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23 Sep 2024 00:11 #342935
by DarthJoJo
Replied by DarthJoJo on topic What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
Stayed with friends while attending BusterCon, the fan convention for the Arkham Horror LCG. That way I could take a break from playing games all day by playing games all night.
I don’t know if there’s a game in the world I’m worse at than Master Labyrinth. At least half of my points came from the player before me setting me up such that I didn’t have to move a single piece to grab the token. On two of my turns two other players found scoring plays that I couldn’t see with another two minutes of staring. It just escapes me.
Donald X. Vaccarino’s Greed is best with larger player counts. Even though you see each hand less, you see more cards and can feel better about making some sort of strategy work. Still I enjoyed some three-player games. Not surprisingly, my friend who was able to play three extra cards by recurring his Seance twice won. Second game was crazy. Two of us tied at $195k and the third came in at $180k.
I’m glad my friends were willing to give Ra a second shot after I screwed up a rule regarding the Ra tiles because it is quickly working its way into my all-time top five. First game my friend took a solid win despite having only single-digit sun tiles in the second and third epochs. Same friend won the second game after winning only a single auction in the third epoch before the Ra tiles ended it. Seeing the strategies emerge is amazing. High-value hands can be bullied into overpaying by mid-range tiles. Bids on empty auctions just to transform a 1 into a 7. Such a great design.
Two games of Hansa Teutonica demonstrated the flexibility of the play space. Won the first by building trading posts on the routes to the action upgrade city and blitzing to 20 points before anyone could get use out of their five actions. Won the second by playing the long game and building a huge network off the back of my five actions. Screw variable starting powers. Replayability comes from having to adapt to other players.
I don’t know if there’s a game in the world I’m worse at than Master Labyrinth. At least half of my points came from the player before me setting me up such that I didn’t have to move a single piece to grab the token. On two of my turns two other players found scoring plays that I couldn’t see with another two minutes of staring. It just escapes me.
Donald X. Vaccarino’s Greed is best with larger player counts. Even though you see each hand less, you see more cards and can feel better about making some sort of strategy work. Still I enjoyed some three-player games. Not surprisingly, my friend who was able to play three extra cards by recurring his Seance twice won. Second game was crazy. Two of us tied at $195k and the third came in at $180k.
I’m glad my friends were willing to give Ra a second shot after I screwed up a rule regarding the Ra tiles because it is quickly working its way into my all-time top five. First game my friend took a solid win despite having only single-digit sun tiles in the second and third epochs. Same friend won the second game after winning only a single auction in the third epoch before the Ra tiles ended it. Seeing the strategies emerge is amazing. High-value hands can be bullied into overpaying by mid-range tiles. Bids on empty auctions just to transform a 1 into a 7. Such a great design.
Two games of Hansa Teutonica demonstrated the flexibility of the play space. Won the first by building trading posts on the routes to the action upgrade city and blitzing to 20 points before anyone could get use out of their five actions. Won the second by playing the long game and building a huge network off the back of my five actions. Screw variable starting powers. Replayability comes from having to adapt to other players.
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23 Sep 2024 09:34 #342938
by Shellhead
Replied by Shellhead on topic What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
Half of my Call of Cthulhu group was running late yesterday, so I got out This Game is KILLER for a quick 3-player game. It was very quick. On turn one, I was on the bridge and played a card that would allow me to survive if another player did something that could kill me. The alien showed up on the bridge and killed me. One of the other players vented the airlock, removing it from play. On turns two and three, the other two players kept going to different rooms, while the alien went to a third room. On the fourth turn, the alien cornered one of the players, but his action card allowed him to KO the alien, take a tissue sample, kill the alien, and win the game. The end. Although three players is the minimum number of players, I think that it would be better to start with at least four or five players.
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26 Sep 2024 15:04 #342948
by DarthJoJo
Replied by DarthJoJo on topic What BOARD GAME(s) have you been playing?
Tried some new stuff lately. Bought my second kid MicroMacro: Crime City for his birthday. He’s a big fan of escape-room-type games and books with picture mysteries. I figured this would scratch the same itch and have been right so far. Only two stories in but have been charmed by the illustrations and temporality.
Surprised by how well my wife has taken to Battle Line: Medieval. Cooperative game are more her speed, but she thinks games like this and Riftforce are tolerable because they’re quick enough losing doesn’t feel as miserable. She won our last two games handily by playing more aggressively and taking locations when the best I could do is tie. Classic Knizia’s: a very solid design with a lot to think about despite a minimal ruleset.
Taught a friend Claustrophobia. The word that came to mind during play was ‘clean.’ Kind of a surprise considering it’s absolutely a dungeon crawler with all the room types and keywords and unique cards, but it moves. Turns just click along. Game was pretty well over by the end of the second turn. His troglodytes absolutely swarmed me on a low defense turn, and that put me too far behind to threaten much of anything for the rest of the game.
Surprised by how well my wife has taken to Battle Line: Medieval. Cooperative game are more her speed, but she thinks games like this and Riftforce are tolerable because they’re quick enough losing doesn’t feel as miserable. She won our last two games handily by playing more aggressively and taking locations when the best I could do is tie. Classic Knizia’s: a very solid design with a lot to think about despite a minimal ruleset.
Taught a friend Claustrophobia. The word that came to mind during play was ‘clean.’ Kind of a surprise considering it’s absolutely a dungeon crawler with all the room types and keywords and unique cards, but it moves. Turns just click along. Game was pretty well over by the end of the second turn. His troglodytes absolutely swarmed me on a low defense turn, and that put me too far behind to threaten much of anything for the rest of the game.
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26 Sep 2024 15:59 #342949
by southernman
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The game shelves are creaking after COVID and aftermath, then old group disbanded, then building work on house kept games off the table for a long time but didn't stop me picking up new ones (I have been selling as well but the shelves are still slowly filling rather than emptying). So my answer to this was to start multiple sessions amongst the gamers I have around playing multiple campaign games - the current itinerary is:
Mondays - 5 player Betrayal Legacy
First Wednesdays - 4 player Tainted Grail
Second Wednesdays - 3 player Sword & Sorcery
Fridays two-Weekly - Gloomhaven: JotL
Sundays - Machina Arcana 3e
The problem with campaigns though is when people can't make a day you have to break from it and do filler games, and unfortunately one guy has had a bad run with his employees messing him around and his own health and another also has had employee issues and, of course, they are always different weeks. The other challenging part is keeping all the different rules separate in my head (usually requires a refresh the day before). the last 10 days has been interesting with two sessions of Jaws of the Lion and two of Machina Arcana with their similar but differing Line of Sight rules ... but still great fun.
And there is purpose behind it all - I have already done campaigns of both Sword & Sorcery and Tainted Grail and have the follow-up games for both to play but decided to have the new guys play through the original campaigns first so they appreciated the the new ones more (plus I loved playing both games previously so had no problem playing thru them again). And the other long-term purpose is getting enough of them used to both a high narrative game (Tainted Grail) and a pretty complex tactical combat games (Sword & Sorcery) so they won't fall out of their chairs when I pull out the monstrosity called Aeon Trespass: Odyssey
Mondays - 5 player Betrayal Legacy
First Wednesdays - 4 player Tainted Grail
Second Wednesdays - 3 player Sword & Sorcery
Fridays two-Weekly - Gloomhaven: JotL
Sundays - Machina Arcana 3e
The problem with campaigns though is when people can't make a day you have to break from it and do filler games, and unfortunately one guy has had a bad run with his employees messing him around and his own health and another also has had employee issues and, of course, they are always different weeks. The other challenging part is keeping all the different rules separate in my head (usually requires a refresh the day before). the last 10 days has been interesting with two sessions of Jaws of the Lion and two of Machina Arcana with their similar but differing Line of Sight rules ... but still great fun.
And there is purpose behind it all - I have already done campaigns of both Sword & Sorcery and Tainted Grail and have the follow-up games for both to play but decided to have the new guys play through the original campaigns first so they appreciated the the new ones more (plus I loved playing both games previously so had no problem playing thru them again). And the other long-term purpose is getting enough of them used to both a high narrative game (Tainted Grail) and a pretty complex tactical combat games (Sword & Sorcery) so they won't fall out of their chairs when I pull out the monstrosity called Aeon Trespass: Odyssey
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26 Sep 2024 16:06 #342950
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Wow, you've got a lot of patience and ability for campaign games. My feeble group is down to playing maybe 5 times a YEAR at this point. It's to the point where I often don't even bother sending invites.
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26 Sep 2024 17:14 #342951
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I've got the time on my hands and space to host these days, and just lucky to sift through the new club members and find some who - so far - are happy playing the weight/type of campaign games I have (helps that they all have active rpg backgrounds so nothing new to them).
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29 Sep 2024 16:43 #342962
by dysjunct
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Rommel in the Desert in all its 1982 glory. I am not a big wargame guy personally, but I tend to like -- or at least appreciate -- this Columbia block games for managing to do a lot with a little. This has a very surprising amount of luck though -- you need to play cards in order to do things, and to keep your opponent guessing, some cards are dummy cards that don't let you do anything, other than possibly bluff your opponent into thinking that you have a plan. At one point I ended up with a hand of 10 dummies and two actual cards, and was mostly helpless as the Brits drove around me, attacked me again and again, until I was cut off from my supply lines and half my forces died immediately.
It has some interesting things but could really use a second edition and a designer who isn't immersed in wargame tropes for their own sake. 2/5.
It has some interesting things but could really use a second edition and a designer who isn't immersed in wargame tropes for their own sake. 2/5.
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30 Sep 2024 10:36 #342967
by Joebot
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I got to play 5-player El Grande this weekend. I haven't played El Grande in ages, and that game still holds up. Especially with 5, where it is chaotic and mean. I got the 8-point mobile score board out in the first round, and managed to hang onto that damn thing for the entire game. Everybody else was fussing about trying to get bonus points from the king, or from their Grande, and I just kept banging out that 8-point region. I ended up winning by about 10. Such a great game.
Then we played 4-player Railways of the World (eastern US map), which is never going to be my favorite game. I don't do well with games that force you to go into debt. My brain just doesn't work that way, even in a board game context. We ended up with a runaway leader, and it definitely was not me. My friend upgraded his engine to level 8, then just started cranking out 8-link shipments in all those closely-packed cities in the northeast corner. I think he only built like 20 tracks in the entire game, and just blew the rest of us away. I ended up in a distant 3rd place, only 3 points behind 2nd place. I missed out on my 6-point end-game goal (play the most track tiles) by ONE STUPID TILE. It's an okay game, I enjoy the track-laying aspect of it, but it ends up being pretty dry and mechanical.
Then we played 4-player Railways of the World (eastern US map), which is never going to be my favorite game. I don't do well with games that force you to go into debt. My brain just doesn't work that way, even in a board game context. We ended up with a runaway leader, and it definitely was not me. My friend upgraded his engine to level 8, then just started cranking out 8-link shipments in all those closely-packed cities in the northeast corner. I think he only built like 20 tracks in the entire game, and just blew the rest of us away. I ended up in a distant 3rd place, only 3 points behind 2nd place. I missed out on my 6-point end-game goal (play the most track tiles) by ONE STUPID TILE. It's an okay game, I enjoy the track-laying aspect of it, but it ends up being pretty dry and mechanical.
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