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21 Jul 2015 07:36 #206649 by lj1983

airmarkus wrote: Far Cry 3. I am not really enjoying myself and the story is stupid, yet I can't stop playing. I feel like there should be a Gamer's Anonymous meeting going on somewhere that I need to attend and confess my inability to stop playing games when I stop enjoying them. Much like a horse chasing a dangled carrot, I keep galloping along for some unknown reason. I liked climbing the radio towers at first to open up sections of the map and discovering all the wildlife and different aspects of the game that become unlocked. The combat was really just average at best. Now I'm really just playing to stubbornly finish the game. The story is ridiculous and makes no sense, the combat is pretty frustrating at points, even on the easiest difficulty level and the cursing for cursing's sake is just annoying at this point. At least I'm enjoying my addiction to Hearthstone. As for Far Cry 3, well, I just want to finish the game so I can check it off my list.


I played through FC3 over more than a year...I enjoyed the collecting animals (to make new stuff) and assaulting bases more than the missions. Other than a couple set pieces, the missions were nothing really special.
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21 Jul 2015 08:19 #206652 by airmarkus
It's funny you say that. I finished the final mission last night and intended to shut it off and go to bed. Instead, I figured I'd try and take a few bases, which turned into a few more and so on along with some of the hunting missions. It was way more enjoyable.

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21 Jul 2015 18:22 - 21 Jul 2015 18:22 #206688 by Sevej
For FC 3, get the treasure map from the merchants. No, the money's not important. But some of the chests were placed in the most interesting places in the island.
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22 Jul 2015 08:51 #206706 by Black Barney
that was the best part about finding the collectables in the GTA games. They put them in some pretty cool spots you would never have known existed.

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22 Jul 2015 09:32 #206709 by hotseatgames
Bought the new Humble bundle, and started Stanley Parable last night. That's a very interesting "game"... so far.
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22 Jul 2015 09:34 #206711 by airmarkus
Good to know about the maps. I just assumed they were used instead of climbing the radio towers to reveal the regions, so I never bought one. Now that the main storyline is out of the way, I'll probably enjoy the game more. I can see this being something I play when the mood strikes over time to satisfy the completionist in me. It's definitely more fun just playing it free-form. Maybe I should give open-world games more of a chance. I've always felt aimless in those types of games like Skyrim or Fallout. I like good stories though too.

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24 Jul 2015 01:12 - 24 Jul 2015 01:14 #206886 by Gary Sax
I started playing the Last of Us remastered, which I got for cheap a while ago. It's decent but not fantastic, and the performances are excellent. The female lead in the first bit is excellent, in particular. I'm playing on hard so it's a little frustrating but I haven't been totally stymied (yet).

It IS a style of game that I've mostly outgrown, to be honest. And it has something in it that drives me up the wall and makes me want to turn off the game. Every plot/narrative linear game needs to own that fact and dispense with the search the environment for notes and collectibles shit. It RUINS the game. You're running a totally linear set piece game? Do NOT sprinkle shit in the corners of the environments, especially useful crafting tools that are vital for my survival. You're begging me to completely take myself out of the performances or tense set pieces and engage in pixel hunting/non-urgent searching. It destroys pacing and, more importantly, creates huge ludonarrative dissonance by urging you to notice that many set pieces that are framed as chases or limited timeframes are infinite time safe zones (until the next trigger). Why a game that obviously had so much craft put into it in art and performances has many mechanics in it that serve to jerk you away from all of it is beyond me.
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24 Jul 2015 10:00 #206907 by Black Barney
Yeah, I totally hear that Gary. If the game has a momentum-based story, going for collectables really wrecks that. It bothered me in Mass Effect when I'd be driving around a moon trying to find meaningless items when the galaxy is about to end.

Some games do a BRILLIANT job at actually making it actually part of the story. Like in Gears of War, you're collecting dog tags of fallen soldiers. Totally makes sense to pick them up. "remember the fallen" and such. In GTAIV and V, you don't have to do it as part of the story but when you have free time (even after you finish the story) so it becomes a fun way to explore the map.

And i think it works in Survival Horror games like Dead Space since you're scrounging every trash can anyway desperately for ammo and supplies, so sometimes you come across some creepy audio logs (same with Resident Evil...remember when you find Sullivan's VHS tape? yikes...)

Other games don't learn a thing from all of this except "oh cool, let's put in collectables like these other games" without giving it any context.

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24 Jul 2015 11:16 #206933 by Green Lantern
I recently got the chance to play The Last of Us as well and quickly realized I did not like the forced combat/stealth scenes and that my weapons were pretty much useless. Combine that with the fact that you get to make ZERO choices in the game I quickly packed it up and just watched the Youtube movie to get all the story bits I was enjoying. It was worth it because playing the game got frustrating and tedious trying to clear out or avoid hordes of soldiers and zombies when all I really wanted to do was see what was around the next corner for Ellie.

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24 Jul 2015 11:39 - 24 Jul 2015 11:41 #206940 by Gary Sax

Green Lantern wrote: I recently got the chance to play The Last of Us as well and quickly realized I did not like the forced combat/stealth scenes and that my weapons were pretty much useless. Combine that with the fact that you get to make ZERO choices in the game I quickly packed it up and just watched the Youtube movie to get all the story bits I was enjoying. It was worth it because playing the game got frustrating and tedious trying to clear out or avoid hordes of soldiers and zombies when all I really wanted to do was see what was around the next corner for Ellie.


I don't mind the stealth combat and the brutal hand to hand stuff (man is this game fucking violent). But the first real combat situation they throw you into against the infected in the abandoned skyscraper is a widowmaker and I'm not sure why they did that. My guess would be that 30% of people turned the game off after being thrown into a difficult combat sequence with like 5 hunters and a clicker in a relatively small environment. Took me about 10 tries on Hard. And I just platinumed Bloodborne so my 3rd person action skills aren't too bad!
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24 Jul 2015 12:46 #206945 by Michael Barnes
The Last of Us is total garbage. They should have just made a SyFy channel zombie movie instead of trying to dress it up with "gameplay" that usually amounts to pressing up on the stick or getting into this sloppy, boring combat and looking for "crafting" materials. Crafting? Really? Is that the best they could do in terms of tricking people that there is a video game here?

It is emblematic of everything that is wrong with modern video games, top to bottom. But oh, it has a girl in it so it's PROGRESSIVE! And its oh so very somber and adult...it has THEMES, MAN! And FEELS! Look how far video games have come! It's like playing a movie!

Seriously, what the fuck happened over the past 10 years where the impetus that got NIGHT TRAP made- sensationalist, sleazy shock violence that is like playing a movie- became the driving force in game design?

Rocket League, for example, is MUCH better as an example of the video games medium. I've come around on it, I think it's pretty great. I do wish there was a little more to it (on-field obstacles, ramps, power-ups, etc.) but the gameplay is ACE and it is 100% skill-based. The game doesn't try to tell a story that will move 15 year old boys to tears. The only story it tells is GET IN THE FUCKING GOAL, BALL. And HOLY SHIT I JUST BARREL ROLLED INTO A CLUTCH SAVE.

Even last year's Wolfenstein is filled with GAMEPLAY. There's lots of story and characters (most of which are actually pretty good), but it comes down to your skill in making it through an area filled with Nazis, dogs and robots. The main attraction is the exciting gunplay and over-the-top ACTION that YOU ARE A PART OF, not in these cut scenes with meticulously rendered HAIR and somber-ass, po-faced bullshit to make people confused into thinking that the game is VERY SERIOUS and ADULT.

Can you dual-wield sniper rifles in The Last of Us? I didn't think so.
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24 Jul 2015 14:40 #206958 by Gary Sax
That's horseshit. The stealth gameplay in the set pieces is pretty tight and the gunplay is intentionally difficult. It may not be to your taste but it's a strong exaggeration to say there's no gameplay in The Last of Us. And to say we disagree on the relative quality of The Last of Us's voice acting and writing compared to a SyFy movie is an understatement. I wouldn't hold it up with fine cinema but it's not a shitty B-movie quality either thus far. Maybe it changes for the worse, I don't know.

As for the question of if a linear, movieish game is the best use of the medium... I tend to agree with you that it is not. I'm glad I didn't buy it full price. But I think that's an open question with different answers---some people love that linear movietype shit. I don't play any JRPGs either for the same reason, and people love those linear stories too. The Last of Us is certainly better than what I've seen of, say, the Final Fantasy XIII series.
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24 Jul 2015 14:46 - 24 Jul 2015 14:50 #206960 by Michael Barnes
Well, it depends on how MUCH gameplay you want, I guess. Compare the gameplay there with Bloodborne. Think about how OPEN Bloodborne is. Not in terms of level design (which is actually very, very tightly under control) but how you can PLAY it. There aren't nearly as many ways to play The Last of Us. Because the gameplay that is there is extremely limited.

Metal Gear is like that too, even though most people carelessly lob the "playable movie" criticism that way. You are locked into a specific narrative line and you have to hit the beats...but getting to the beats is where the gameplay is, and you often have a huge number of different variables to play with as to how you approach a scenario.

As for the quality of writing/acting...it's actually great. FOR A VIDEO GAME. Which isn't saying...well, anything really. The standard in the medium is so low that even mediocre looks great.

There is another issue with games like TLoU...there's this straining to reach for SERIOUS ADULT THEMES and MATURITY...but the game gives you nothing to do but the same things you do in stupider, less adult and less mature games. You still run around shoot enemies in the head. You still craft bullshit so that you can shoot enemies in the head better. The ACTIONS of the game are the same as any other braindead, cover-based shooter. It's the same problem with Uncharted- great story, great characters, great settings...but the gameplay is just shootin' muthafukkas in they face with maybe a little exploration here and there. A nominal "hero" such as Nathan Drake should not rack up 500, 1000 kills in one of his adventures. But that's all the developers give you to do in terms of gameplay.

Contrast with Wolfenstein, where the theme, purpose and agenda is to allow the player to shoot 500-1000 Nazi muthafukkas in they face.
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24 Jul 2015 15:27 #206965 by Black Barney

Michael Barnes wrote: The Last of Us is total garbage.

Can you dual-wield sniper rifles in The Last of Us? I didn't think so.


These two statements alone make me think that the Mad Gamer is truly mad to put you in the top five 'game' reviewers of all time.

I hate Diablo III like poison but know enough about games to recognize that it is a quality title.

You're comparing Last of Us to games that are totally different and are aiming at very different experiences, intentionally. You're out there to have fun, we get it. Some people want an experience.

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24 Jul 2015 15:41 #206966 by jeb

There is another issue with games like TLoU...there's this straining to reach for SERIOUS ADULT THEMES and MATURITY...but the game gives you nothing to do but the same things you do in stupider, less adult and less mature games. You still run around shoot enemies in the head. You still craft bullshit so that you can shoot enemies in the head better. The ACTIONS of the game are the same as any other braindead, cover-based shooter.


I think I am OK with this. I am not sure what "adult" gameplay is. It still needs to be a game. I think you can find fault with crafting being tedious in general and shooting-as-agency being ground into meaninglessness, but that doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't explore deep themes in a game. PAPERS, PLEASE looks at a pretty deep topic and it's tedious by design. I don't think you could actually make a game more on-face boring than TIS-100 , but it is literally the only game some folks want to play. You could argue it's adult-themed, because it's about coding in Assembly language.

That said, I am in agreement with you about games treating death as trivial. Nathan Drake is a psychopath. He's killed what, like 3,000 folks now? That's a number Jim Jones didn't get close to. And for what? Adventure? Some games craft a narrative where the killing is without context (SERIOUS SAM), or obvious context (WOLFENSTEIN, RAINBOW SIX), or meta-contextual (BORDERLANDS, SPEC OPS: THE LINE, maybe even GTA). It's tough for games that want to be fun, but also want the whole game to be about killing people. The only FPS I know of that treats death seriously these days is probably DAYZ. If killing people becomes trivial, you end up with some seriously broken people. You could argue that DAYZ is not fun.

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