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What TV SHOWS are you watching?
06 Dec 2019 12:02 #304823
by Shellhead
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Yeah, there was probably a little too much of Ziggy and Nick in season two. I've only seen those actors in one other show each. The guy who played Ziggy played a similar character in Low Winter Sun, so I think that he probably has a very limited range to the point where he is just playing himself. Some very popular actors have built successful careers on playing themselves, but they weren't annoying like Ziggy. The guy who played Nick is also in American Gods, and he's great. So at least in his case, the writing seems to be the difference. Either way, season two could have dropped a few of their scenes to give other characters more time.
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06 Dec 2019 13:52 #304826
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Sheeeeeeeeeeeit.
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06 Dec 2019 15:41 - 07 Dec 2019 11:13 #304834
by Msample
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I've never understood the lack of love for Season 2 of THE WIRE. Sure it added more characters to keep track of, but I think it did an excellent job of showing how far the drug story could spread . Frank Sobotka was a sort of tragic criminal hero in that sure he did the dirt, but all in the name of preserving his union.
I do agree that the Ziggy storyline was tiresome at times, but no worse than the endless scenes of Bubbles getting high. The actor is pretty one note - he was in GENERATION KILL as well as a recurring role on BOSCH and those characters are pretty much riffs on Ziggy.
One thing that was interesting was that on just about any other show, once they lock up the boss, you never see what happens to the rest of the criminal empire. To say Stringer Bell had a different way of doing things is an understatement.
"N****, are you takin' notes on a motherfucking criminal conspiracy?"
And sure Brother Mouzone may be a bit unbelievable, but for someone who only had a few scenes he sure leaves an impression. Sheeeiiit, that n**** has more bodies on him than a Chinese cemetary.
I do agree that the Ziggy storyline was tiresome at times, but no worse than the endless scenes of Bubbles getting high. The actor is pretty one note - he was in GENERATION KILL as well as a recurring role on BOSCH and those characters are pretty much riffs on Ziggy.
One thing that was interesting was that on just about any other show, once they lock up the boss, you never see what happens to the rest of the criminal empire. To say Stringer Bell had a different way of doing things is an understatement.
"N****, are you takin' notes on a motherfucking criminal conspiracy?"
And sure Brother Mouzone may be a bit unbelievable, but for someone who only had a few scenes he sure leaves an impression. Sheeeiiit, that n**** has more bodies on him than a Chinese cemetary.
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07 Dec 2019 23:32 #304894
by jeb
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THE WIRE was just amazing TV. I'm not going to whine about Season 2, because a bad WIRE season still beats literally everything else on television. I could just hang around with Prop Joe all day. I would watch that guy eat a sandwich.
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08 Dec 2019 10:19 #304896
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“ Buy for a dollar sell for two”.
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08 Dec 2019 10:26 #304897
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Maisel is back.
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08 Dec 2019 10:34 - 08 Dec 2019 10:35 #304898
by Gary Sax
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Been catching up on the expanse since the new season is up soonish. I've read all the books so it's always interesting to see the choices they make.
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08 Dec 2019 14:10 - 08 Dec 2019 15:04 #304908
by Jackwraith
"The feeling is it ain't right for you to be at the head of our table when you can't call off your dog. Call it a 'crisis of leadership.'"
"Businessmen, such as myself, does not believe in bad blood with a man such as yourself. Disturbs the sleep."
And, yet, one of my favorite Prop Joe moments is when he's talking to Sergei:
"Did he have hands? Did he have a face? Yes? Then it wasn't us! ... Idiot."
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jeb wrote: THE WIRE was just amazing TV. I'm not going to whine about Season 2, because a bad WIRE season still beats literally everything else on television. I could just hang around with Prop Joe all day. I would watch that guy eat a sandwich.
"The feeling is it ain't right for you to be at the head of our table when you can't call off your dog. Call it a 'crisis of leadership.'"
"Businessmen, such as myself, does not believe in bad blood with a man such as yourself. Disturbs the sleep."
And, yet, one of my favorite Prop Joe moments is when he's talking to Sergei:
"Did he have hands? Did he have a face? Yes? Then it wasn't us! ... Idiot."
Last edit: 08 Dec 2019 15:04 by Jackwraith.
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08 Dec 2019 21:28 - 08 Dec 2019 21:30 #304915
by Shellhead
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With diminished enthusiasm, I returned to Babylon Five and am now halfway through season four. They won the big war and now the trouble with Earth has resumed. Babylon Five did improve from season to season, but I feel like even season four is still just moderately good by my standards. Instead of plowing all the way through Babylon Five, I got distracted by various movies, Mr. Robot (midway thru season three right now), and re-watching Chernobyl and American Gods with my girlfriend. She is still trying to fill the void in her entertainment left by the conclusion of Game of Thrones. I keep telling her that her best alternatives to GoT might be The Expanse and The Wire, but she isn't interested in a sci-fi show or a cop show.
EDIT: I randomly spotted Bryan Cranston in an episode of Babylon Five tonight. It's fun to see actors before they got big, and this appearance was a few years before Malcolm in the Middle and long before Breaking Bad.
EDIT: I randomly spotted Bryan Cranston in an episode of Babylon Five tonight. It's fun to see actors before they got big, and this appearance was a few years before Malcolm in the Middle and long before Breaking Bad.
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08 Dec 2019 22:48 #304917
by Jackwraith
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Finally convinced my girlfriend to sit down and watch The Expanse with me. We're six episodes in to season 1. It's decent. She initially dismissed it as kind of "Star Trek-like" until I pointed out that 1) they're at least approximating science here in that they have to be concerned with acceleration and ships actually have to flip and decelerate, etc; 2) everything is dirty the way real people working in space would be; and 3) it's concerned with actual life issues for the political conflict and not just "Those people have brow ridges and pointed ears and, thus, are the enemy!" Instead, as with most political issues/wars, it's about the money. It's always about the money.
Given my Howard Chaykin affectation, I appreciated that they kind of dropped you into the middle of some things, although not quite as immediately as he did, since they did take some time out for exposition. However, there haven't been many rough patches in that respect and I was actually kind of annoyed that at no point are you made aware of what "OPA" actually stands for. It's not relevant (spoiler: They're the rebels!), but I had to go look it up online.
Given my Howard Chaykin affectation, I appreciated that they kind of dropped you into the middle of some things, although not quite as immediately as he did, since they did take some time out for exposition. However, there haven't been many rough patches in that respect and I was actually kind of annoyed that at no point are you made aware of what "OPA" actually stands for. It's not relevant (spoiler: They're the rebels!), but I had to go look it up online.
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09 Dec 2019 00:25 #304920
by Michael Barnes
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Watchmen tonight was -incredible-.
I’ve resigned myself to the fact that if there’s going to be a sequel to Watchmen, this was absolutely the right way to do it.
I’ve resigned myself to the fact that if there’s going to be a sequel to Watchmen, this was absolutely the right way to do it.
Warning: Spoiler!
After being somewhat disappointed about Cal being Dr. Manhattan, that idea was completely justified. I don’t think they could have “got” the idea of Dr. Manahattan any more right and true to the original character. The whole thing with the egg, the simultaneous time, the mix of omniscience and curiosity...absolutely brilliant. The thing with the device was perfect- I loved that he went through with Veidt’s plan b almost out of curiosity more than anything else. He wanted to go somewhere he couldn’t see for a change.
The shot where we finally see him floating with Cal’s face was just tremendously powerful and emotional...I’ve been reading Watchmen since it was in issues in 1986 and that moment really affected me, far more than I expected that this show would be able to. For me, I think that may have been the Moment...it perfectly bridged the original Moore/Gibbons vision with this one.
Jeremy Irons was just dead on as Veidt...he’s been great the whole show, but I really liked his performance in this episode...and seeing Karnak ca. 2009 just blew my mind.
I am worried about the inevitable season 1 cliffhanger...I really wish this would just wrap up and be done. There are so many hooks that could lead into a second season- the absent Nite Owl, for example- but with stretching it out more there’s a huge risk of outstripping the legitimacy the show has earned.
And I hope Lube Man is never explained.
The shot where we finally see him floating with Cal’s face was just tremendously powerful and emotional...I’ve been reading Watchmen since it was in issues in 1986 and that moment really affected me, far more than I expected that this show would be able to. For me, I think that may have been the Moment...it perfectly bridged the original Moore/Gibbons vision with this one.
Jeremy Irons was just dead on as Veidt...he’s been great the whole show, but I really liked his performance in this episode...and seeing Karnak ca. 2009 just blew my mind.
I am worried about the inevitable season 1 cliffhanger...I really wish this would just wrap up and be done. There are so many hooks that could lead into a second season- the absent Nite Owl, for example- but with stretching it out more there’s a huge risk of outstripping the legitimacy the show has earned.
And I hope Lube Man is never explained.
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09 Dec 2019 00:47 #304921
by mc
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Re Cranston don't forget he was the dodgy dentist on Seinfeld as well, I think he was in at least a couple of episodes.
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09 Dec 2019 02:46 #304922
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He was also a bad guy in an episode of Airwolf and did voices for some monsters in Power Rangers.
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09 Dec 2019 10:19 #304927
by Joebot
I loved Season 2 of The Wire. It was a departure from Season 1, but just as fascinating and compelling. I always viewed Frank Sobotka as the proto-Walter White. He convinced himself he could "break bad" for honorable reasons, and it was just one step after another, until he was in far too deep.
If we're swapping Prop Joe quotes, my favorite was always the one from the east vs. west basketball game. "Look the part, BE the part, motherfucker."
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Msample wrote: I've never understood the lack of love for Season 2 of THE WIRE. Sure it added more characters to keep track of, but I think it did an excellent job of showing how far the drug story could spread . Frank Sobotka was a sort of tragic criminal hero in that sure he did the dirt, but all in the name of preserving his union.
I loved Season 2 of The Wire. It was a departure from Season 1, but just as fascinating and compelling. I always viewed Frank Sobotka as the proto-Walter White. He convinced himself he could "break bad" for honorable reasons, and it was just one step after another, until he was in far too deep.
If we're swapping Prop Joe quotes, my favorite was always the one from the east vs. west basketball game. "Look the part, BE the part, motherfucker."
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09 Dec 2019 11:11 #304929
by Shellhead
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Prop Joe had so many good lines. One of my favorites is, "For a cold-ass crew of gangsters, y’all carried it out like Republicans and shit,”
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