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14 May 2019 22:37 #297049 by Shellhead

Gary Sax wrote: Horseshit episodes. A lot of good posts here. I'll absolutely buy the core twist on Dany, but the work here is completely hamfisted and bizarrely 2 episodes long and incoherent.

What an ugly, shitty end to what may be the only end I see to my favorite book series.


"George R.R. Martin debunks ‘crazy story’ that the ‘Game of Thrones’ books are finished"

www.latimes.com/books/la-et-jc-george-rr...-20190513-story.html

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14 May 2019 22:43 #297050 by Shellhead
I get the impression that Dany really likes to burn people. Not counting in military battles, she has:

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15 May 2019 10:38 #297070 by jeb
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15 May 2019 12:34 - 15 May 2019 12:34 #297081 by Gary Sax
Jeb, I agree, I don't think the show (ANY show, not just this one) has the time to lay the groundwork the books laid about just how much people preferred having fairly arbitrary, drunk Baratheon on the throne from a day to day perspective to the mad king years. It changes how you feel about some key characters, too---the Kingslayer or his turncloak father vs. "good" loyalists like Ser Barristan.

There are several scenes, the most powerful of which is Jaime iirc, describing having to stand in the court and watch the mad king burn people alive. Or how he is covered with scabs from his like 10 inch long fingermails and the cuts from the iron throne. I think holding all that in the back of your mind here is useful.
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15 May 2019 14:21 #297093 by Joebot

Gary Sax wrote: Jeb, I agree, I don't think the show (ANY show, not just this one) has the time to lay the groundwork the books laid about just how much people preferred having fairly arbitrary, drunk Baratheon on the throne from a day to day perspective to the mad king years. It changes how you feel about some key characters, too---the Kingslayer or his turncloak father vs. "good" loyalists like Ser Barristan.

There are several scenes, the most powerful of which is Jaime iirc, describing having to stand in the court and watch the mad king burn people alive. Or how he is covered with scabs from his like 10 inch long fingermails and the cuts from the iron throne. I think holding all that in the back of your mind here is useful.


What frustrates me is that they have Bran, the Three-eyed Exposition Machine, sitting RIGHT THERE. It would have been very effective to have Bran flashback to some of these critical points in Westeros history, like maybe the Mad King roasting Ned's father alive, or Jamie choosing to kill the Mad King and save the people of King's Landing. Show us some of this stuff! Instead ... Bran sits in his chair and stares and says cryptic bullshit. Why bother introducing his abilities, only to not do a goddamn thing with them? He's a built-in flashback-generating storytelling device! USE HIM! So stupid.
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15 May 2019 14:57 #297097 by ChristopherMD
Bran is my choice to sit on the throne. With his omniscience and if he lives as long as that dude in the tree then he'd be like the God Emperor of Westeros.
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15 May 2019 15:09 #297099 by jeb
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HAND: "Your Grace, the people are starving, perhaps we could open the gran--"
BRAN: "There was a starving. A great one. Only crows were sated." /stares
HAND: "Uhhh. Yes. Anyway, we have stored some grain, should we r--"
BRAN: "I am not hungry. I no longer eat. I will go now" /eyes roll back
HAND: "Fucking hell..."
BRAN: "I heard that, I hear everyth--"
HAND: "I KNOW."
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15 May 2019 15:24 #297100 by ChristopherMD
Could be worse...

HAND: "Your Grace, the people are starving, perhaps we could open the gran--"

ROBERT BARATHEON: "I need more wine!"

HAND: "Uhhh. Yes. Anyway, we have stored some grain, should we r--"

ROBERT BARATHEON: "You ever fucked a really ugly girl? I did once."

HAND: "Fucking hell..."

ROBERT BARATHEON: "Watch it! I am the King!"

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15 May 2019 15:35 #297101 by Shellhead

jeb wrote: HAND: "Your Grace, the people are starving, perhaps we could open the gran--"
BRAN: "There was a starving. A great one. Only crows were sated." /stares
HAND: "Uhhh. Yes. Anyway, we have stored some grain, should we r--"
BRAN: "I am not hungry. I no longer eat. I will go now" /eyes roll back
HAND: "Fucking hell..."
BRAN: "I heard that, I hear everyth--"
HAND: "I KNOW."


Reminds me of my favorite GoT meme:

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18 May 2019 06:50 #297257 by SaMoKo
Death to all monarchs. Build an iron guillotine

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19 May 2019 13:53 #297285 by disgustipater
I'm a little behind, but all I have to say is they done did Tormund wrong.

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19 May 2019 23:50 #297306 by Shellhead
I was satisfied with the ending. It wasn't enjoyable, but it was respectful and dignified like a funeral. Well, I did enjoy the small council meeting, especially Bronn stealing the scene.

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20 May 2019 00:22 #297307 by Gary Sax
Final ep

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20 May 2019 00:26 #297308 by GorillaGrody
Just going to drop this article here and back out of the room. blogs.scientificamerican.com/observation...-thrones/?redirect=1
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20 May 2019 00:33 - 20 May 2019 00:40 #297309 by disgustipater
Just a random thought:

Wouldn’t John be ineligible for the throne since he renounced all claims when he joined the Night’s Watch? Or is all tradition/institutional law out the window at this point?
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