Joyless

It took a only three albums (and a couple of splits and EPs) these guys (and girl) to turn from a somewhat unconventional black metal band into an extremely catchy shoegazer/noiserock formation. Their "Without Support" LP is the best thing I heard in months.

Dammit, I have no idea how it ended up in the Ameritrash section. Could someone move it into Music?

Sorry.

I have some Joyless...also some Forgotten Woods, which was their band before Joyless. It was good stuff. Haven't heard the new one though.

If you like this kind of thing- BM/Shoegazer crossover- definitely check out Amesouers, ...And Oceans, Velvet Cacoon, Xasthur, Alcest...

Also take a look at Lifelover...they had a couple of really good records.

What the shit does 'shoegazer' mean?

Bands that worship My Bloody Valentine and attempt to make "Loveless part II".

It was a mostly English phenomenon in the early 1990s. Some bands were more Britpoppy (Charlatans, for example), others more experimental and noisy.

Ride/Lush at RPM in Toronto in 1991 was the gig that convinced me to never, ever attend another concert without earplugs in my pocket.

Bullwinkle wrote: Ride/Lush at RPM in Toronto in 1991 was the gig that convinced me to never, ever attend another concert without earplugs in my pocket.

I had a similar experience with Mogwai at the Fillmore in San Francisco. I don't think I've ever been to a louder show, and that one rung my head for quite a while.

A buddy went to the MBV reunion tour and described it as "so loud it couldn't be heard anymore, only felt." That's sort of beyond the pale to me.

Not Sure wrote: A buddy went to the MBV reunion tour and described it as "so loud it couldn't be heard anymore, only felt." That's sort of beyond the pale to me.

Yeah, I never really understood that either. But Kevin Shields was always kind of an asshole. I saw them live on their Loveless tour, and at this point they would finish their show by turning on the lights to watch the audience as they played a single-chord wall of noise for 10-15 minutes. So obnoxious.

Frankly, they were nothing special live. Ride and Lush were much better.

I saw Lush a couple of times in the early '90s, they were one of the better acts of the genre. Not MBV great, but they had a couple of good records in 'em. I also liked/saw Curve a lot, at least "Doppleganger" and "Pubic Fruit". Their other records were kind of awful. Ride, I saw several times, I totally loved them.

Never saw MBV...it really sounds like I didn't miss anything.