DC unveils Watchmen prequels...

My belief is that the American comics publishing business would have been in better shape today had it not been for the sleazy practices and short-term thinking that the Watchmen case typifies. All these problems are causally related. That's why it matters to me. Whether Alan Moore makes money or not is secondary; the real issue is that the comics publishers ruined their own industry.

Mr Skeletor wrote: I'm sorry, I thought this was an internet forum, not a court of law.

Here is somethings for Tom and the other net nerds to think about.

For all the cryng about 'artist rights' and whatever, exactly which industry works like this? None I can think of. If I'm paid to write a piece of software it's my employers. If a script writer writes an episode of buffy it's the studios. If a taylor gets paid to design a police uniform it's the states. That's how the world works everywhere, otherwise who the fuck is going to invest in anything? Moore should have started his own comic company up (like that spawn guy did) if he was foreverever going to have a bitchy=poo about it.

For all the whining about DC, at least they have kept Watchmen IN PRINT. Moore "I don't like movies that cost over $10,000" comes across as the type of pompus ass who wouldn't. What exactly does he want to do with these rights anyway? Fucking sit on them and that's about it. So what exactly is the world missing out on by him not having it? Him not bitching like an old cunt is about it. Comics in print, he gets his royalties, shut the fuck up already. DC havn't exactly whored the shit out of the property in the past.

George Lucus is one of the people who was smart enough to be able to keep his own properties, so it could be done if the artist wanted to. Of course if that wasn't the case I'd be owning the original trilogy on Blu ray, soforgive me for not chubbing up over artists rights.

Now this being the internet I'm certain Tom having read that has now changed his mind, thus making the last 3 minutes of my life worthy of living.

DC kept Watchmen in print for the money, they're not doing anyone any favours but themselves, and Moore is having a bitchy poo about this? Really? Uh, show me the quote. I can garuntee if you've ever read him in interview he doesn't give two shits about this. He let's them make movies out of this stuff (he doesn't have to in some cases) and gives all the money away to the artists so all your efforts to make him look like a pompous ass just make you look ignorant on the matter.

The only thing that matters in this situation is DC has every right to make this, which everyone here agrees about, it's the ethical right we're contesting, not the legal one. Even there it doesn't matter, Moore does not give shit and as Shellhead mentioned he did the same thing. I could not buy the Black Dossier in Canada because he used James Bond without permission. So why would he care?

What does matter is the books, like that coles notes movie, are completely unneccessary. They serve no purpose but to make money. They happen to have a couple of ok writers involved but no one earth shatteringly good. No one good enough to go buy them. The property itself is not that interesting, what was interesting was the one story he told with those characters. Otherwise why should I give a shit? I don't want to hear the story again, as told by a lesser story teller (that's all the movie was, the exact same story told by someone who can't write). They're free to make all the comics they want from the Watchmen property and we're free to say there is no point. Stick with your big properties no one cares about Watchmen anymore. It's done.

Mr Skeletor wrote: I'm sorry, I thought this was an internet forum, not a court of law.

Here is somethings for Tom and the other net nerds to think about.

For all the cryng about 'artist rights' and whatever, exactly which industry works like this? None I can think of. If I'm paid to write a piece of software it's my employers. If a script writer writes an episode of buffy it's the studios. If a taylor gets paid to design a police uniform it's the states. That's how the world works everywhere, otherwise who the fuck is going to invest in anything? Moore should have started his own comic company up (like that spawn guy did) if he was foreverever going to have a bitchy=poo about it.

For all the whining about DC, at least they have kept Watchmen IN PRINT. Moore "I don't like movies that cost over $10,000" comes across as the type of pompus ass who wouldn't. What exactly does he want to do with these rights anyway? Fucking sit on them and that's about it. So what exactly is the world missing out on by him not having it? Him not bitching like an old cunt is about it. Comics in print, he gets his royalties, shut the fuck up already. DC havn't exactly whored the shit out of the property in the past.

George Lucus is one of the people who was smart enough to be able to keep his own properties, so it could be done if the artist wanted to. Of course if that wasn't the case I'd be owning the original trilogy on Blu ray, soforgive me for not chubbing up over artists rights.

Now this being the internet I'm certain Tom having read that has now changed his mind, thus making the last 3 minutes of my life worthy of living.

I was about to write a response to a part of this, about how if the rights had reverted to him Top Shelf would definitely be keeping it print, but fuck, Skeletor, that'd be giving any of your nonsense way more respect than it deserves. There's more wisdom to be gained from my shits than from your posts (slap the turd on a keyboard and it'd probably type better too). Stick to something you know, like Runebound, where you don't just come across as an ignorant asshole.

dragonstout wrote: I was about to write a response to a part of this, about how if the rights had reverted to him Top Shelf would definitely be keeping it print, but fuck, Skeletor, that'd be giving any of your nonsense way more respect than it deserves. There's more wisdom to be gained from my shits than from your posts (slap the turd on a keyboard and it'd probably type better too). Stick to something you know, like Runebound, where you don't just come across as an ignorant asshole.

Whatever.

Sorry to be keeping this thread alive, but there's an enjoyable interview with Alan Moore on the subject:

www.fastcocreate.com/1679856/alan-moore-...ivity-v-big-business

I don't think anyone can read that and think that he comes off as some sort of unreasonable cranky loon.

Here's a massive interview with Alan Moore on why he absolutely deserves to be so bitter:

www.seraphemera.org/seraphemera_books/AlanMoore_Page1.html

It's a great interview and perfectly lays out his position.

His comments on the mainstream comics industry in general, and what they see their role is are especially pertinent.