- Posts: 132
- Thank you received: 113
Bugs: Recent Topics Paging, Uploading Images & Preview (11 Dec 2020)
Recent Topics paging, uploading images and preview bugs require a patch which has not yet been released.
What books are you reading?
Shellhead wrote: Snow Crash was fun. The Diamond Age was good, but felt like it could have easily been written by William Gibson or Bruce Sterling. Cryptonomicon was work to get through, and I don't remember most of it. I struggled to get into Quicksilver and finally gave up on it and on Stephenson. He has his style and he has his fanbase, but I don't have time for his sloppy ramblings anymore.
I'm re-reading a bunch of stuff now. My daughter is taking a Sci-fi lit English class at Umaine. We are going thru the the reading list together, having a mini book club once a week over Facetime. Started with Frankenstein, I had never read it- holy moly is it slooooow. It was a slog for me to get to the end. Next up was Asimov, mostly hitting the highlights of the Robotics Laws stories, I think his writing holds up. Then was PK Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I love PK Dick, I went thru a phase a few years ago where I read just about everything he put out. We are now onto Gibson's Neuromancer. I hadn't read it since high school. I remember liking it a bunch 35 years ago. Now I don't know. I feel this retro future/ nostalgia thing when reading it now, but I'm not enjoying it as much as I did then. My daughter's take is interesting, especially with Gibson, she didn't live thru the 80's so she doesn't it thru that lens. We'll get the 2nd half of the semester's reading list this coming week. More to come.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Maybe the first one. That’s fairly traditional in structure and characters, but Herbert gave up on traditional long ago. We’ve jumped over three millennia into the future, but one of the characters is still kind of alive. I thought I understood the arc of the plot about halfway through 400 pages but found out I was wrong in the last thirty pages.
I just know nothing like it, and I guess that’s why I’m going to finish the last two even though they aren’t always fun reads.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
And WOW are the stories and the "cultural zeitgeist" so divergent! I think children's versions and film are how folks get informed about these things. Dracula I think still holds up well but those others...not so much. It isn't that they aren't mostly well written, just that by the end so much was described off screen, only inferred, or by current standards just kinda oh hum.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Sagrilarus
- Offline
- D20
- Pull the Goalie
- Posts: 8753
- Thank you received: 7385
The Blackthorn Key series is authored by Kevin Sands, a former TWBGer who you would probably recognize by his Bullwinkle avatar. Kevin is (was) a chemist that has turned his time to writing because it's proven more lucrative and less smelly.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Six books later, we're meeting on Zoom this Sunday afternoon to discuss 'The Only Good Indians' by Stephen Graham Jones.
In a nutshell; I enjoyed the story overall, but loathed the writing style. The book has been a darling of the press this year, and gets a lot of love for being indigenous "speculative fiction." There are some shocking moments in the book, and a lot of reflection about reservation life / outside prejudice. At the end, I had some lingering issues and I'm left with a mediocre impression.
Others thus far, with a one word review:
The Return = terrible
Beloved = eye-opening
Ocean at the end of the lane = splendid
Mexican Gothic = chewy
Headful of Ghosts = meta-tastic
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Cranberries
- Offline
- D10
- You can do this.
- Posts: 3111
- Thank you received: 2418
SuperflyPete wrote: Pink Drunk Tank
Great read, although it's just a redux of so many other marketing psychology books I've read.
Hey SuperflyPete!
I am reading The Last Tourist by Olen Steinhauer, the last book in the series, coming a full decade after the previous volume. It's not John LeCarre but it's totally fun and clever and the main character is always worrying about his relationship with his wife and daughter, who get upset with him when he withholds information. They always know when he is lying, and he feels guilty. Meanwhile the black ops organization that he worked for keeps coming back to try and kill him, like an unstoppable horror movie monster, only it's an institution.
As for what American readers are interested in, I simply don’t know. I believe that a good story, well told, will gain a sizeable readership no matter the setting—I’m probably delusional believing that, but it’s the only way for a novelist to think and not go mad. Second-guessing the market, I think, is damaging. First, if it were that easy to predict what readers want, publishing would be a much more lucrative business. More importantly, though, once you start to place an imaginary readership’s desires above your own, you get away from your own interests, and that has to have an ill effect one’s writing.
I know someone smarter than me has said something like this already, but: A novelist’s ideal readership is his or her own self. A writer should write the book he would want to read.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
DarthJoJo wrote: Finished God Emperor of Dune. I don’t even know what to say any more, and I have whole novels left. It’s like Catan. It’s foundational. Everyone has read it at least once. Everyone knows “The spice must flow” and “Fear is the mind killer.” It’s impossible to imagine the modern science fiction landscape without it, but there’s nothing like it.
Maybe the first one. That’s fairly traditional in structure and characters, but Herbert gave up on traditional long ago. We’ve jumped over three millennia into the future, but one of the characters is still kind of alive. I thought I understood the arc of the plot about halfway through 400 pages but found out I was wrong in the last thirty pages.
I just know nothing like it, and I guess that’s why I’m going to finish the last two even though they aren’t always fun reads.
I bailed on God Emperor of Dune. Two friends warned me about it, and they both had horrible things to say about it. I think it's amusing that Amazon is now selling the Dune Saga as a three-book set, pointedly excluding God Emperor and the rest of the sequels and prequels.
www.amazon.com/Frank-Herberts-Dune-3-Book-Boxed/dp/0593201892
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Cranberries
- Offline
- D10
- You can do this.
- Posts: 3111
- Thank you received: 2418
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Sagrilarus
- Offline
- D20
- Pull the Goalie
- Posts: 8753
- Thank you received: 7385
All in all a painting of a man, though competent before during and after the war, that walked the safest path in order to avoid returning to the poverty of his youth.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
They were some crazy times. Something that has struck me in this one was how the standard narrative is that warfare increased its horrific nature in that second half of the 19th century - you know, ACW is the forerunner and then we get to WW1 and so on - but some of the numbers cited in terms of losses during campaigns are vast for the age. I don't know how questionable they are, and often they are from other things - i.e., people drowning or being trampled to death - but 15,000 deaths in a day.... I genuinely had no idea that there were campaigns like this.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Probably not since there wouldn't have been a solidified EU, militarily dominate US/USSR cold war + aftermath to give us almost 80 years of absence from major power conflict.
Then again, depending on where you live, the massive war deaths never stopped coming even if westerners have been getting it easy.
Did this Dalyrmple person write all of these books? If they are lively reading I'll have to check them out.
Reading DUNE again for the first time in quite a while. It always impresses me just how developed, but only tangentially referenced, his worldbuilding is. But when it comes to plot he just has these massive infodumps where he lays out the grand strategies of Atreides and Harkonnen in like the first 20 pages. No suspense really. I have a greater appreciation for the Denis film now because he really is trying to stay closer to the book versus the bombastic Lynch version which is mostly cherrypicking the highlights.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
The Last Mughal is about the Indian Mutiny in 1857, focusing on Delhi and the court of the the last Emperor there.
The Return of the King is about the British invasion of Afghanistan in the 1840s. It is basically Pax Pamir the book - Wehrle used it extensively (and it shows).
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Posts: 136
- Thank you received: 210
It's sometimes difficult to compare modern "battles" with more historical ones as the duration of modern ones are usually so much longer. For example, the deadliest battle in history, the Battle of Stalingrad, took place over 164 days and had casualties of ~700-800 thousand or a per day rate of ~4500. Compare this with one of the more deadly battles of antiquity, Cannae, where 70,000 Romans were killed in an afternoon.mc wrote: ... but 15,000 deaths in a day.... I genuinely had no idea that there were campaigns like this.
War has *always* been brutal.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.