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I prefer this:
www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-Homeline-12...HOM24M125C/100083159
The breakers are cheap as hell and available everywhere. Make sure to buy an extra 10, 15 and 20A single pole in case one dies on you 7 years from now.
I wish I lived near you man, I'd replace all of your outlets for you, brother,
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Sagrilarus wrote: My stuff (Wadsworth) is no longer available as well. My box is on borrowed time, and the wiring is aluminum. I work on electrical projects very carefully.
This too shall pass. You work with what you've got.
That Al wire is the WORST. We have it for a couple services and I have to reapply DeOx on both ends every few years.
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Sagrilarus wrote: My stuff (Wadsworth) is no longer available as well. My box is on borrowed time, and the wiring is aluminum. I work on electrical projects very carefully.
This too shall pass. You work with what you've got.
That Al wire is the WORST. We have it for a couple services and I have to reapply DeOx on both ends every few years.
My entire neighborhood is done in it and no one seems to care. I ask and they just indicate that they've never had a problem.
The heavy circuits are copper but all of the basic outlet and switch circuits are aluminum. I redid every box in the house the day we moved in in 96 (which too frikkin' hours in a house with no air conditioning) and have only had one start to go bad, just this past summer. I inspect whenever I'm in a box and the original treatments look like new. I went with Penetrox which seems a little more durable. Aluminum is a bugger to work with because it keeps breaking off. So the long leads in your boxes keep getting shorter.
The panel is my bigger concern, because for quite a while I couldn't get parts for it. I had a spare, then needed to use it. Then new Wadsworth breakers came on the market for like, three weeks. I bought spares including the two-bers that fit in a single slot (because I'm out of slots too) so I'm covered for the moment, but they all sold out after that and I don't see more coming back onto the market. So the print run didn't match demand apparently. This has let me put off a big upgrade that the house will eventually need, one I'm hoping to put on the next owner. But that me be a ways off.
As for your wife having all the answers after the problem has already occurred . . . it's easier to be right afterwards, isn't it? Why didn't she warn you in advance? It would have saved you a lot of trouble.
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Sagrilarus wrote:
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Sagrilarus wrote: My stuff (Wadsworth) is no longer available as well. My box is on borrowed time, and the wiring is aluminum. I work on electrical projects very carefully.
This too shall pass. You work with what you've got.
That Al wire is the WORST. We have it for a couple services and I have to reapply DeOx on both ends every few years.
My entire neighborhood is done in it and no one seems to care. I ask and they just indicate that they've never had a problem.
The heavy circuits are copper but all of the basic outlet and switch circuits are aluminum.
Holy cow! That's totally backwards from the norm (in the 70's) when builders would use 14 gauge copper for the outlets and lighting and 6 gauge aluminum for the A/C, furnace, range, and refrigerator. I didn't have any problems with my Al wire until we replaced the panel and the electrician who I hired to do it didn't put DeOx gel on the breaker. It got very hot on both the AC and range, and both breakers kept popping due to heat. When I remodeled my downstairs I re-ran the dryer line in Cu because code forced me to (if you move a service you need to meet the current code, which is Cu). Real pain in the nuts. My brand new AC kept popping for the same reason - really pissed me off that the installer didn't realize he needed to add the gel.
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You might have done yourself a favor, because main breakers often go bad without people knowing it. They remain in the On position for decades and often more or less get frozen in that position, at least from an electrical point of view. My Dad taught me to exercise the main breaker whenever there is a power failure just to keep it mobile.
If you cross-wired an outlet it should blow the circuit breaker before blowing the main. If you didn't wire it up correctly otherwise the outlet just wouldn't work.
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I was thinking what would've caused this and really one of two things are it - your Cu ground wire isn't connected well at a pigtail or you have polarity reversed on one of the outlets.
That, or a dead breaker. That's really the only two possibilities based on what you did.
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