Coronavirus

California has an 84-page document detailing its distribution plan, with accounting for supply constraints, location logistics, and detailed steps for its 61-health jurisdictions to model and follow.

www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%2...terim-Draft_V1.0.pdf

In many ways, California functions as an independent nation-state with its own federated states (usually counties, here: jurisdictions) simply due to its immense size, geographically and economically.

This is the UK's vaccine priority list:
1. residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
2. all those 80 years of age and over and frontline health and social care workers
3. all those 75 years of age and over
4. all those 70 years of age and over and clinically extremely vulnerable individuals[footnote 1]
5. all those 65 years of age and over
6. all individuals aged 16 years to 64 years with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
7. all those 60 years of age and over
8. all those 55 years of age and over
9. all those 50 years of age and over

But we have four separate nation regions in the UK that are each doing their own thing so no different to your separate states doing their own thing.

Today my mom tried to guilt trip me when I told her I was skipping Christmas. I explained to her that I already skipped Thanksgiving and things aren't any different now.

I don't need this kind of shit.

It's hard, man.

Tell her you're going to party so FUCKING HARD once this vaccine derrrrOPS

Is anyone else worried about household members being vaccinated at different times?

My wife is an elementary teacher and currently teaching remotely. If she gets vaccinated and then returns to school, while she may be protected my daughter and I will be at more risk than pre-vaccine now since we're currently all at home.

I understand the AstraZeneca vaccine is said to inhibit transmission, but I have heard that is not the case in the other leading candidates.

charlest wrote: Is anyone else worried about household members being vaccinated at different times?

My wife is an elementary teacher and currently teaching remotely. If she gets vaccinated and then returns to school, while she may be protected my daughter and I will be at more risk than pre-vaccine now since we're currently all at home.

I understand the AstraZeneca vaccine is said to inhibit transmission, but I have heard that is not the case in the other leading candidates.

That is interesting that teaching staff are being vaccinated early. In the UK is is being used purely to protect the more vulnerable rather than to inhibit transmission, as it's not only the high death rate that needs prevented but also the more vulnerable filling up the hospitals as they succumb to the disease and thus bringing all non-covid hospital services to a halt.
So it is starting with the very vulnerable, along with frontline healthcare staff (a nurse dies very recently, the 204th frontline healthworker to die from covid), and then working done in tranches finishing at 50-55 - at that point that is meant to have done about one third of the country.

Of course we're already seeing various industries jockeying to get to the front of the line for vaccines. Longshoremen ( yeah I can see that, keep goods flowing ) . Airline employees ( saying they are needed to fly vaccines ) - um, you don't need that many people to fly vaccines .

Its gonna be a shit show.

I'm pretty low down on the priority list so I've resigned myself to being towards the back of the line.

ubarose wrote: Healthcare workers, first responders, the elderly and people in long term care facilities are getting it first.

Teachers and childcare workers are included in phase 1b, which also includes prisons, group homes, food service and grocery workers, people over 65, people with high risk who are under 65.

I think phase 2 is other essential workers.

Phase 3 is every one under 65 who isn't any of the above.

Bottomline is that there are some essential workers who are more essential and are in contact with more people than others.

Interesting that the US is including a lot of people who come into contact with the public although they may not be in a high risk group, especially when it is unknown if it actually inhibits transmission.
The UK is purely concentrating on at risk groups, in decreasing priority, and healthcare staff (who are dying on the frontline). The mortality stats for the year in the UK shows that if you're under 45 with no underlying health issues you have a very low probability of dying from the disease:

The business that I work for has three owners. I report directly to all three of them. Two are a married couple approaching retirement age and the third owner is my age and originally from China. He has always taken this pandemic seriously, dating back to early January, because he still has family back in China. The married owners are Republicans who gradually drifted right as the party became less moderate, so they have dragged their feet at times about safety precautions. They stayed home from work for a couple of months last spring, but have been back in the office ever since. Their mask usage has been on the lax side of adequate...

Until now. Two weeks ago, the female owner's mother tested positive for COVID-19, and she lives in a nursing home a few states away. Now our married owners are very serious about wearing masks, and more vigilant about who is wearing masks around them. I feel like more and more Americans will come around in the next couple of months as people they know personally get sick.

Shellhead wrote: I feel like more and more Americans will come around in the next couple of months as people they know personally get sick.

My mom was kind of in the “oh, it’s overblown media hype” camp until one of her acquaintances died from COVID. Took exactly one week to go from perfectly healthy, no preexisting conditions or comorbidities, to dead.