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24 Mar 2020 11:54 - 24 Mar 2020 15:48 #308520 by lj1983
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we had our first confirmed case in the County this weekend. 28 in the state. of course, that number isn't real, but at least we're sparse on the ground, and it feels like our local/state government is taking it seriously. We're not on official "shelter in place" yet, but everything is pretty much shut down. When that happens here.....we've pretty much been doing it already. I figure my work will be essential, kids/wife/MIL don't go out at all at the moment, other than for exercise. And I do the grocery shopping on Mondays.

Good things, I finally shamed work into letting us run the morning production meeting virtually. We are implementing a schedule for office folk to cover production/reporting requirements, and allowing everyone else to WFH.

Bad thing, my boss is now in quarantine. Results should be back tomorrow. I'm frantically thinking back to the last week and trying to think if I spent any significant time near him. I don't think so. I've been good about avoiding people, other than that stupid production meeting. Wednesday (3/18) was the last time I spoke with him. So if I'm infected, definitely everyone in the house is too. IT guy in the office near mine is in quarantine. He helped a girl move last week over in South Dakota, and she's tested positive. 3 people last night were sent home with symptoms. what's next for them? do they get tested? do they come back to work? who the heck knows. I'm lucky to have a large amount of PTO built up..but I know of people here on site who already are out of PTO time.

I worry about my mother in law, she's 67 and lives with us. I don't go near her, but the kids hug me, then hug her.

Corporate HR out of St. Louis sent out a COVID-19 Update, which was full of tons of corporate speak and nothing. the only thing they added to the status quo was the option to take leave w/o pay (yay...) and "Some paid benefits may be available outside of our normal STD/PTO policy (remember that HR must make these decisions)". that's reassuring. That definitely sounds like, additional benefits for....certain people.

Groceries are limiting perishables to 1 ea. which unfortunately means I have to hit multiple groceries up for milk. 1 gallon isn't going to cover an 8 person household for a week. But other than TP/Hand sanitizer/Chicken shelves are stocked, and groceries are moving well. Pasta is back.

With the warmer weather, my daily dog-walk is actually getting kind tough, as there are a ton of people outside and I've had to wave a couple people off who want to come pet my puppy.

We had a virtual townhall, which was surprisingly honest about everything. We are the reddest Red State you ever saw....and they were pretty frank about not knowing how long everything would be shut down, estimating that months is definitely possible, schools, worry about our local hospital.

The kids overall are doing ok. they miss playdates and seeing other people, but they stay busy. probably more video games than are really good, but we're working lessons in. and we're lucky to have a decent sized backyard, so running out and jumping on the trampoline or wrestling with the dog has been good for them. I've started teaching them Tae Kwon Do in the evenings. It's been years since I've done any, but I found a decent youtube video series, and I remember enough to go through some white belt/yellow belt level stuff. weekends are definitely, pick a game to play with dad. they all get their choice, then they ask me what I want to play. "Duel of Ages" I say. Somehow it always gets forgotten.
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24 Mar 2020 16:32 #308534 by Jackwraith
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Oh, and just FYI: A colleague had a friend who became the 9th death in Michigan today. The deceased was mid-40s with no underlying health problems, other than maybe being a bit overweight. For all those thinking that "the old folks will be fine sacrificing themselves for the economy!", they should keep in mind that the virus don't know from "old folks".
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24 Mar 2020 17:59 - 24 Mar 2020 18:24 #308539 by southernman
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Jackwraith wrote: Oh, and just FYI: A colleague had a friend who became the 9th death in Michigan today. The deceased was mid-40s with no underlying health problems, other than maybe being a bit overweight. For all those thinking that "the old folks will be fine sacrificing themselves for the economy!", they should keep in mind that the virus don't know from "old folks".


That is the one thing the mainstream media are hiding, that young and healthy people are catching this bad. A 36 year old healthy nurse over here is critical on a ventilator, other medical staff are similar, saw on the news today that at least four five doctors have died in France … but when deaths are announced on our radio/TV they keep getting suffixed with "and they had an underlying medical condition", this is just not scaring the population into sensibility and are making young and healthy people think they bulletproof.
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24 Mar 2020 18:18 - 24 Mar 2020 19:45 #308541 by Gary Sax
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The underlying medical condition thing is deceptive, my mother in her 70s was confused by this. Underlying medical condition can be high blood pressure! She seemed to think it was always like "already on a oxygen from some terminal disease" and I'm like, no mom, if *you* died they'd say you had several underlying medical conditions.
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24 Mar 2020 19:12 #308544 by Frohike
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It seems that unless someone is rampaging through the streets with an AK, there are always people in this town who will not be told what to do... and will find a way to have some "protest" gathering. I'm really kinda tired of this aspect of Santa Cruz:

chiefmills.com/2020/03/24/covid-19-santa-cruz-responds

22 cases in the county today, up from 15 on Friday

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24 Mar 2020 19:42 #308545 by Sagrilarus
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Gary Sax wrote: my other in her 70s was confused by this.


Dude, fix that typo. Painted quite a picture when I first read it.
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24 Mar 2020 19:46 #308546 by Gary Sax
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lol, indeed!

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24 Mar 2020 22:52 #308550 by Jackwraith
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Really excellent piece on why you can't find toilet paper: novaramedia.com/2020/03/23/when-logistics-run-out-of-time/

(Hint: It's not really because of hoarders.)
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25 Mar 2020 09:17 #308554 by lj1983
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but rather the great majority of us who have, however moderately, visited the shop twice in a week rather than once, grabbed a small trolley instead of a basket, picked up two soaps instead of one, or picked up an extra pack of bog roll before you’re down to your last one.


yeah, I'm guilty.

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25 Mar 2020 09:25 #308555 by RobertB
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I get the TP at Target, in the ginormous 1 x 10^6-roll pack, pandemic or not. Luckily I restocked right before everybody got serious about their TP stash.

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25 Mar 2020 11:15 #308562 by ubarose
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There are also students and workers, who had a significant portion of their food, toilet paper and hand soap supplied via school, university, and work supply lines, who are now at home. Even if you are only one adult who is now working from home, that means you are using your home supply of toilet paper, rather than work's supply, for 40 more hours per week.

We went from shopping for breakfast and dinner for two adults, to shopping for breakfast, lunch and dinner for six. Personally, we are running dangerously low on dish soap as I didn't calculate all the additional washing up we would need to be doing.
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25 Mar 2020 11:55 #308568 by RobertB
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For us, staying at home has definitely upped our dish usage, especially coffee cups. We've gone from 0-1 to 7-8 a day. The struggle is real. :)
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25 Mar 2020 12:35 - 25 Mar 2020 12:38 #308572 by Msample
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Jackwraith wrote: Really excellent piece on why you can't find toilet paper: novaramedia.com/2020/03/23/when-logistics-run-out-of-time/

(Hint: It's not really because of hoarders.)


I think the author is a little harsh on placing blame at the supply chain for the shortages - what we are seeing is unprecedented. The grocery store business is notorious for being very low margin - even before the virus hit and the economy was good, grocery chains were not that profitable. What kept them where they were was making inventory lean/just in time . Inventory turn is crucial when margins are tight.

Specific to toilet paper, I used to work with a guy who planned paper product inventory for BJ's Wholesale club several years ago. He said it was very tricky - he'd get reprimanded if the stores had more than 4-6 days worth of stock on hand, since it too up so much space but on a $$ per cubic foot metric, weren't that high on their priority scale vs say a tray of steaks or a case of canned products. Same for their warehouses.

Shelly also brings up a valid point - people used to get some of this stuff at work , whether it be K cups or toilet paper. Now a LOT more is at home. Add in that I used to work with people that would eat out for lunch 3-5 days per week as well some dinners and it really adds up. We're not eating more food so much as eating it at home as well as in different places - the worker who used to drive an hour to work is now shopping for more food in a different place , relatively speaking.
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25 Mar 2020 12:38 #308573 by ubarose
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My dearest friend since college is a doctor in a NYC hospital. She tells me that it is "absolute hell" and they are on a "nightmare trajectory." They have more patients than they can handle and people are dying. There simply is not much they can do for most patients. Treatment short of a ventilator is Tylenol, cough syrup, and maybe a nebulizer or emergency inhaler. So, essentially - go home, self quarantine, try not to die.

They have no N25 masks and no personal protective gear. She is using plastic reusable face shields (which she bought off of eBay,) cleaning between uses, and rotating them hoping that 3 days is enough time to allow fomites time to die. They are trying to figure out how to sterilize the masks, but don't know if their attempts are working or not.

She is terrified. In 30 years I have never known her to be scared of anything.
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25 Mar 2020 14:45 #308578 by Gary Sax
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^going off what you're talking about, this is a harrowing read from the patient perspective.

www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/magazine/coro...Py8QmDUIK6fcDHlQ3VFs
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