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Barnes on Game Special Edition - Warhammer 40k: Battle for Vedros in Review (in three parts!)

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05 Jul 2016 12:28 #229733 by Michael Barnes
The following user(s) said Thank You: southernman, Columbob

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05 Jul 2016 16:55 #229734 by hotseatgames
Very cool article idea, and I look forward to reading the rest of it.

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05 Jul 2016 17:31 #229736 by Josh Look
Damn, this set is $60 on eBay. Rethinking my choice of Tau, I could get on board with Orks for sure.

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05 Jul 2016 17:44 #229737 by Michael Barnes
Retail is only $50 though...if you can find it anywhere. There isn't anywhere selling it near me in Atlanta, and it's not available through regular hobby retail. Some of the add-on kits are the same kits as the "regular" 40k ones though- the Attack Bike and Wartrakk for example are just the same ol' sprues and they are the same price. Just not in the "GI Joe" packages. They made it sound like the entire line was going to be snap fit, but they actually aren't.

It's a pretty good set to start with. You don't quite get a full tactical squad (get the SM box to complete it) but you get a good force on both sides. The SMs have a Dreadnought, a Terminator, and both a Sergeant and a Captain. The Orks get a great Warboss figure, a bunch of Boyz, some Nobz and the Deffkopta. It's definitely worthwhile to add the bikes and the Gretchin, and I think it wouldn't be too difficult to modify some of the other models to the Vedros rules.

And they need to be modified for it because they are VERY stripped down. Like, to sub-Heroscape levels of complexity. Some of it is done pretty smartly, because it preserves some key elements of the units in terms of range, specialization and durability. There's no ballistic skill or anything like that- SMs hit on a 3+, Orks 5+. Then you roll to wound on 4s against armor saves. Some things modify those, like the Gretchin getting a +1 on their hit roll. But I think it would just be a matter of looking at like, say, a Land Raider and working out a simplified way to handle its functions.

If you really want to go wild, two of these sets (with a couple of adds) would give you two pretty complete armies. You wouldn't get the specializations or formations of the more advanced units, but you would have a good range of units with different strategic uses.

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05 Jul 2016 22:22 - 05 Jul 2016 22:23 #229740 by Mr. White
I like how this seems to be a more exploration article rather than straight up review. Sounds like a great time with the kids. Any chance we can get some 'in action' photos so we can see what this many minis looks like on the table, terrain in play, etc? General minis pr0n stuff. Clearly you need not include any people or faces.

The big question...what does this do to Heroscape at your house? Is that recently acquired game done already? That'd make a huge resource for GW funds...
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06 Jul 2016 05:30 #229741 by southernman
Sounds great, like to see your painting outcome. Unfortunately I've never been into minis due to the assembly and paiting requirements (just not interested) - any i have gotten have been pre-painted, including the GW subsidiary/licensee Sabretooth in the early 2000s that brought out the LotR Combat Hex game, OK painted minis with decent enough minis rules for us boardgame-types - so I won't be into it, plus my lad is late teens now and only into video gaming.
Is this a proper table-top system or similar to he GW board games you and others have been mentioning ?

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06 Jul 2016 09:48 #229748 by SuperflyPete
I love that you're not 'reviewing' as much as telling us a cool story about that time you and your kids got some GW stuff and played and painted with it.

So much better than "critical review" stuff. Way more fun to read because you can actually "feel" the smile on your face as you wrote about it. MOAR MOAR MOAR

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08 Jul 2016 16:27 #229874 by DukeofChutney
This is a great article Barnes. I enjoyed warhammer a lot more when I was 10-12 than i did when i was 15, not to say warhammer is not for adults but I do think stripping it down for the younguns is a good move. Glad to hear your kids are digging it. I did collect Orks when I did 40k, partly because i could build vehicles out of bits of scrap and they were rules legal. Also you could pile on the minis and do lots of silly fun stuff.

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