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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 05 Feb 2017 22:06 #243619

The phenomenal success of the X-Wing game has made it an irresistible model to follow. Grab a hot media franchise and slap a miniatures game on the top of it. The latest member of this herd is The Walking Dead: All Out War. The game art makes clear that it's based on the eponymous comics rather than the TV series. But it's all related enough to catch the eye of anyone with a passing interest in either.

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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 07 Feb 2017 13:21 #243620

Thanks for the review.. now I am actually thinking of picking it up. I have a bunch of gaming terrain laying around from warhammer 40k and necromunda days and I am a fan of both the comic and the tv show.

But then I think I should see if I can find someone else who would be interested. Last summer I got some people to pick up Guildball stuff and then we played three times... never even got past the looking up rules mid-game stage and then it fizzled out. Lack of free time and too many games. Too many rule sets.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 07 Feb 2017 15:07 #243630

If this came out 5-6 years ago, I would already own a copy and at least one expansion.
But, right now it is the accumulation of zombies fatigue+walking dead fatigue + new board game fatigue + spoiled by GW minis.
How long does it take to play?
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 08 Feb 2017 02:24 #243649

Vlad wrote:
How long does it take to play?

As long as you like, because it depends on the points value of figures you choose to bring. You can play a small solo game in less than a half hour. With the figures in the box you're unlikely to play any scenario that takes longer than 90-120 minutes. But there's no need to go that long unless you want to: smaller games are still lots of fun.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 08 Feb 2017 09:45 #243667

I can't believe I missed this review.

This game was built on the steel bones of Mars Attacks: TMG, which is a good thing. I, in fact, would rather play Mars Attack because of the vehicles, wackier heroes and setting, and the overall sense of humor the game has without trying to make it into a "comedy game" or some such tripe. I also like that there's a TON of scenarios with it. Had I not needed to remodel my house and pay some bills, I'd have never sold that.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 08 Feb 2017 10:14 #243668

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This game was built on the steel bones of Mars Attacks: TMG, which is a good thing.

Interesting, I had no idea it was a partial reskin of an existing system.

A quick read about Mars Attacks, though, suggests it's a straight up humans vs aliens fight without any equivalent to the AI zombies in All Out War. It's those walkers that make the game for me, because of the dilemmas they pose. Go quiet or go fast? Kill them off or use them against the opposition? Plus the solo rules are more fun than expected.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 08 Feb 2017 15:34 #243679

Exactly, having zombies as a 3rd faction is what makes this interesting to me. There is a miniature games system All Things Zombie (that I haven't played, but is kinda famous) which was distilled into a boardgame (which I have). The latter was focused on co-op, and pretty mediocre overall. It had one fun mission where you had a two opposed groups of survivors with zombies in between.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 09 Feb 2017 06:57 #243697

All Things Zombie (the miniatures game, not sure about the BG) has many spiritually similar ideas to this design. It's probably the best comparison. All Out War is like a streamlined, professional version of ATZ.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 09 Feb 2017 07:00 #243699

I received the All Things Zombie board game as payment for a mini-expansion to House of Spirits from Lock 'n Load. They never ended up releasing the expansion. And I never played All Things Zombie.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 10 Feb 2017 14:42 #243771

I'm kind of a mark for this game (check BGG for proof) but really what makes it stand out for me is that it's one of the few Mantic games (Kings Of War is another) that actually does what it says. After Mantic kinda botched the Dungeon Saga KS, and half-baked the Dungeon Saga solo rules, and killed Deadzone V1 in favor of V2, and went overboard with Dreadball to the point of nuking it for a Second Edition there as well, and birthing Mars Attacks only to slit its throat shortly after birth, and leaving a few of their earliest efforts (that weren't nerfed into second editions) to die on the vine... I sort of had my eyes closed for this Walking Dead product, assuming the worst.

Maybe it was my low expectations, but it's just so super SOLID that I can't find much to bitch about. It doesn't pretend to re-invent anything, but the zombie vibe is still there with the threat tracker and Nerve Tests, and independent zombie movement. And it's totally a minis game, not a boardgame, but the rules are so straightforward and solid (there's that word again) that you can't help but be charmed by how easy it is to play & teach. True, the expansions aren't cheap, and it's obvious they are milking the cash cow a bit with how boosters are priced, but Ronnie Renton has already said this is Mantic's best selling game ever already. I can't wait for Wave 2 to arrive in a few month's time.

And there is so much of the comics that hasn't even begun to be explored yet that Mantic can mine this vein for years.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 11 Feb 2017 20:49 #243802

Does it have a campaign mode? Do my guys move on to the next game with the resources they gathered in the scenario just played and gain experience from surviving another harrowing zombie encounter?
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 13 Feb 2017 02:25 #243831

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Does it have a campaign mode? Do my guys move on to the next game with the resources they gathered in the scenario just played and gain experience from surviving another harrowing zombie encounter?

Not in the base game, no. Would be a nice and thematic addition for an expansion, of course, and I'm sure that hasn't escaped Mantic's notice.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 14 Feb 2017 09:31 #243925

I still think Zpocalypse is the best 'Zombie Board Game'as far as campaign (or pseudocampaign) play goes. Or really, even as one offs.
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The Walking Dead: All Out War Review 14 Feb 2017 09:49 #243930

Zpocalypse is fine, I played it a few times. It's not in the same ballpark as Walking Dead IMO.
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