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TOPIC: The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners

The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 02 Dec 2018 21:29 #287294

Without much fanfare, 2018 marked the 40th edition of the Speil des Jahres. There are now forty games that have had the title of Game of the Year bestowed upon them by German-speaking board game critics, and the winner can expect to become one of the best-selling games in the world.

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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 02 Dec 2018 23:29 #287295

I just purchased the combined Trains and Trains: Rising Sun, which I hope merges Dominion and Ticket to Ride in a Japan-themed package that may appeal to my daughters. So it's like two prize winners for the price of one!
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 03:06 #287299

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I just purchased the combined Trains and Trains: Rising Sun, which I hope combines Dominion and Ticket to Ride in a Japan-themed package that may appeal to my daughter.

Great list, but I'd scratch Dominion altogether. It was a huge innovator but it's been hugely superseded by so many deck builders with extra wiggly bits, especially boards, such as Trains. Adding a board increases the depth and interest of a deckbuilder massively, yet hardly increases the complexity at all. In some respects, it makes things easier to learn because your goal becomes less abstract.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 06:16 #287304

MattDP wrote:
Great list, but I'd scratch Dominion altogether. It was a huge innovator but it's been hugely superseded by so many deck builders with extra wiggly bits, especially boards, such as Trains. Adding a board increases the depth and interest of a deckbuilder massively, yet hardly increases the complexity at all. In some respects, it makes things easier to learn because your goal becomes less abstract.

I think that's a good point (and have an article coming up soon that kind of harps on the failings of Dominion in contrast to similar games), but I think Nate's choice here is valid for precisely the reason he cites: Dominion virtually invented the concept. Others have improved on it, but there's something to be said for innovation.

Great article, Nate.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 06:30 #287306

Great article! Certainly agree with Settlers
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 07:57 #287318

I still come back to Dominion as a deck builder. The pure execution of the concept can be refreshing, and the many expansions bring the complexity of the game past many others that have come and gone.

That being said, the game requires at least 2-3 expansions to shine which is a hefty investment for newcomers. Newer products are much cheaper out of the gate and hit depths core Dominion can’t.

If the wife wasn’t hooked on Dominion from day one, we would likely have gone the direction of one of these newer games. Mage Knight receives quite a bit of play, though it scratches a different itch.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 09:23 #287325

Dominion may be my top Spiel winner of all time, but Hanabi isn’t far behind. I know it’s controversial within the more dedicated gamer community, some even arguing that it isn’t really a game but weird performance art, but it does so much right. It can fit in a purse no problem, not being able to see your own hand is immediately intriguing, there’s just that right amount of tension in every play or discard, and it’s quick enough that there’s always time for one more try at a better score. If I could convince someone to play a round, it was the easiest sell when I worked at a toy store.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 10:12 #287328

While I disagree with some of your choices, I really can't believe you don't have Liar's Dice in your list.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 15:29 #287362

It's been a long time since I saw a list of games where I have played all of them. Not only that, but if any of these came out, I could more or less remember how to play them. Yeah, these really are great games, even if they aren't my personal favorites.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 16:24 #287366

This is definitely not based altogether on personal preference. A list of my favorite games would likely have El Grande at the top. These are ranked by impact as much as anything else.

By that metric I can actually see Dominion being up one spot. Not only is it highly influential, it's still really popular. Like Catan, a lot of hobbyists have moved on, but it's still getting discovered and ensnaring new people. I don't even like the game that much, but I just didn't think I could ignore it.

I've never actually played Liar's Dice. It sounds like a game I would enjoy though. I still question where it would go though, assuming it made the cut. I can't see it higher than 9 for me. Another game that might have made the cut had I played it is Hare and Tortoise. I do question the long term impact of both games, but then I put Adel Verpflichtet way up at 5, so what do I know?

I almost included Rummikub, which was, without my knowledge, the first SdJ winner to which I was exposed. I passed on it in the end because it won after being out for several years. Sort of a 1970s Qwirkle.

I was actually really surprised how many strong games have won, especially since 2000 or so. I think Thurn & Taxis is the only one since then I haven't ever clicked with at least a little.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 03 Dec 2018 21:43 #287388

Great list!

Here's another vote for "Dominion deserves its spot."
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 04 Dec 2018 02:10 #287397

DarthJoJo wrote:
Dominion may be my top Spiel winner of all time, but Hanabi isn’t far behind.

Hanabi is great. So simple, yet bypasses all the inherent problems with the genre at a stroke: the players actually have to co-operate to win, and no-one can play alpha dog. I know a lot of players don't like the meta aspect of the game where it's easy to inadvertently "cheat" with the tone of voice or the timing of what you say, but I actually like it. Most groups settle on a shared understanding that works for them which adds to the flexibility and charm of the game.

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I've never actually played Liar's Dice ... Another game that might have made the cut had I played it is Hare and Tortoise?

You should totally play Liar's Dice. It's great and all you need to play is some dice, which I'm sure you have laying around. Hare and Tortoise is fun but I'm not sure it's top 10 SdJ material. I guess the most interesting thing about it is that it still feels fairly novel despite its age.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 04 Dec 2018 07:05 #287406

Great article Nate.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 06 Dec 2018 14:35 #287632

Hare and Tortoise belongs on this list. A great, great game that is totally unexpected when you set it up.
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The Ten Greatest Spiel des Jahres Winners 06 Dec 2018 15:44 #287635

engelstein wrote:
Hare and Tortoise belongs on this list. A great, great game that is totally unexpected when you set it up.

That's the story book race game right? My friend has it and that game is a hit every time it hits the table. All ages, quick, lite. And very simply fun. A real gem.

The other games we have played in that series (3 little pigs, Baba yaga) were not...

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//so I had to go google up Hare and Tortoise, to see that you are talking about something entirely different than The Hare and The Tortoise.
///rather than delete my post in shame I will let it linger in infamy, to remind myself what a filthy casual I am.
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