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Flashback Friday - Cartagena - Love It or Hate It? Do You Still Play It?

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22 Feb 2019 00:00 #292885 by ubarose
This pirate themed racing game was once the go-to filler...

Love it or hate it? Do you still play it?

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22 Feb 2019 03:21 - 22 Feb 2019 05:42 #292886 by mc
I bought the new edition for my daughter last year after she played it with me at a con and said she really wished we had it at home.

I like Colovini's stuff that I've played- it's really bare essence kind of thing, you know, fully distilled. Really simple games, but there's always something interesting there. Explain in 2 minutes, start playing, and then get kind of engrossed in it as you realise there's obviously got to be a bit of a trick to doing well, but, you can't quite see it, or it's going to depend on what the other players are doing. This one, you've got to have a keen eye for timing things right, or you just get stranded. And if you think about it, what he's done here is basically make Candyland into a real game with a minor tweak. It's a neat little engineering solution if nothing else.

The new edition is kind of like choose your own game - there's all sorts of variables - I think you can play Cartagena, Cartagena 2, a combination of bits of those, where you have to get on a boat but there are limited spots, a version where you play it backwards (as in, you pull the pirates forward to pick up cards (i think) ) and it also has these extra rules which give each suit a special ability. They work pretty well and give it a bit of spice. Basically you have to declare you are using the special ability with a card instead of using it for movement. They are also vaguely thematic (at least in comparison with the main game). So like, if you use the gun symbol special ability you get to rob an opponent of a card. There are treasures to go on the treasure spaces that you can dig up (extra cards, mainly, but also a snake that bites you and you have to go back to the last available rum spot for a drink to calm your nerves). So they're kind of fun, and whenever we play the game we pretty much always use that ruleset.

Something else to point out as that the publisher (or Colovini, I don't know) kind of Fargo'd the whole "famous jailbreak" thing - nothing like it ever happened, as far as I've been able to make out.
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26 Feb 2019 07:28 #293036 by stormseeker75
Cartagena is perfect. So simple to teach and tons of player interaction. I don't play this much because I don't have groups around, but I will play this any time someone asks to play it.

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26 Feb 2019 09:14 #293041 by ubarose
I am a bit surprised at how few responses we have to this weeks FBF. Perhaps this is a indication that Cartagena didn’t have the staying power of some of the other games that we have featured.

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26 Feb 2019 09:43 #293042 by Jackwraith
Yeah, sorry. There's a rather large chunk of German/Euro-style games that I have virtually no connection to whatsoever and this is one of them. During the years that those were coming to prominence, I was largely out of the board game scene, so I've never played or only played a lot of classics like El Grande or Cartegena a couple times. I have since caught up on a lot of Knizia designs and played them extensively, but not much more. Give me a Games Workshop or Avalon Hill or SPI or Knizia Flashback and I'm all over it. But I'm a little limited on mid- to late-90s Euros.
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26 Feb 2019 10:21 - 26 Feb 2019 10:24 #293047 by ubarose
No need to be sorry. It is interesting to discover what games that were popular when they first came out, and have been around and in print (more or less) for 10-20 years have been able to find new audiences, and which ones haven’t.

I wonder if part of the problem is they didn’t stay true to the clean simplicity of the original game, and muddied it up with all the variants they added in.
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26 Feb 2019 15:49 #293083 by san il defanso
I ended up reviewing this for MM and I found it pretty thin. Lots of great light German games from the turning of the millennium, but this one frankly lighter than I cared for.
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27 Feb 2019 10:25 - 27 Feb 2019 10:28 #293106 by Colorcrayons

ubarose wrote: I am a bit surprised at how few responses we have to this weeks FBF. Perhaps this is a indication that Cartagena didn’t have the staying power of some of the other games that we have featured.


I've never even heard if it until now.

Literally.

No recommendations, no whispers about it while playing Jamaica/Pirates of the Spanish Main/etc.

Nothing.

I don't think of myself as insular when it comes to games, and like to think of myself as fairly well informed, moreso than even many informed users at ToS.
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