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Cthulhu Wars in Review
SuperflyTNT wrote: While you're at it, make up some cards for the factions that give them boosts every time they gain X amount of points or something.
There's been some discussion on that topic to make asymmetrical faction powers for Nexus Ops. I haven't experimented with it. You?
stoic wrote: ...... and calculate non-Euclidian geometry....
Wow, I do that all the time. Does that mean I'm a Cthulhu worshipper? Is that the same as a physicist?
I'll consult Cthulhu and Lovecraft's interdimensional shade when I next see them in the swamp.
So, this happened today:
The bits seem smaller now. The box seems like it's mostly empty. Shellie has the battle foam in it and it makes sense...mine has bags.
The more I think about this the less I am seeing $150.00 in value there. Mine is a KS version, and I'm not seeing any stretch goals or anything.
If they were painted, totally $150.00 or even $200.00 but unpainted, I just don't see a hundred fifty dollars in the box.
dfour wrote: Tell me more about how you're not seeing the value, so I can stay strong and not give in in these final days.
- There's only 30-40 miniatures in the box. Granted, they're big, but still, there's not a lot.
- The cardstock is thin. The copy I got was sleeved and still my reference cards are bent up.
- Player mats are thin cardstock as well.
- The box is as empty as Yig's soul. The box is HUGE and mostly empty. This means less structure. My box had torn corners and seams.
- It's a far better-than-average DoaM, based on one play, but it's not 100$ better.
- 50$ per expansion is STEEP AS FUCK. 13 models, 6 cardboard counters, a thin character sheet....and that's 50$? Suck a dick.
- The "grandiosity" wears off. I played in Mass on Oct. 20th or so. It's not even a month later and now I'm looking at my copy thinking "I remember them being bigger"
I hope this helps. I'd be in for $100.00-$120.00 but for $150.00 I think it's a bit much. If it had a built-in 5th faction I'd be all over it.
I'm toying with the idea of asking my crew if they will split the cost of this + a 5th faction. I'm not rich enough to own a $200 shelf turd. If dudes put money in then it would get played. And I know for sure this would be a perfect game for everyone since we all have roots in CoC + DoaM. I dunno, it makes me feel greasy to ask lol.
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And the dice...they really bug me. You can buy a $25 game that has custom, etched dice. But in CW you literally get stock D6s...little ones. Black, not even green or something.
The board is fine, but nothing special and it's visually pretty bland...this is one place I will compare it to CitOW, which had a GREAT looking board. In a $60 product.
The figures really do make up for those disappointments, I'm sure they were quite expensive to sculpt, mold and assemble (a couple are multiple pieces). And this is some hard ass, "toy grade" plastic, not the brittle or bendy stuff game minis are usually made of.
If the game were made on a bigger scale by a larger company, I think they could have hit their margin target without cutting those kinds of corners.
The game is so good I overlook some of that...but there again, it's up to you to do the math and determine if it's all worth it.
I know I can overlook a lot of shit when I get something free. If someone moves and I get thier kitchen table, for example, the nicks and scratches don't bother me, but If I paid for it at a garage sale, I'd be far more critical.
Just my 2c.
With regard to THIS game, I'd love to know their budened cost. If they're not clearing 75$ a copy then they suck at life.
The shipping bill I got for receiving my copy from St Louis was $14.50 + 3 for insurance
Speaking of, anyone know whether these minis are amenable to the hot water/cold water unbending trick? I've got at least one figure nearly doubled over. Haven't gotten through all of them yet; twas a wretched weekend in every respect.
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It's like, 1/4 the weight of the box. It's not the usual thin vaccuform thing. It's like hard ass, heavy gauge plastic. Like, plano box plastic. And it's custom-molded to fit the GOO figures and the Dark Young. Thing is, once you take it out, the stuff doesn't really fit back in the box under it.
CERTAINLY that insert could have been ditched in favor of some kind of component upgrades. I don't know how much it cost to do that, but I can't imagine that it couldn't have been swapped out for punchboard administrative boards, custom dice or something.
Mine is sitting under the desk as a footrest. Thinking about recycling it because it has no other use.