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Into the Unkown Once More (A survey of some tactical computer games)

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22 Mar 2020 13:35 #308471 by Jexik
XCOM ENEMY UNKNOWN
This game is absolutely fantastic and cheap to...

I was playing the recent Wildermyth, and wanting to write something up about it, when I realized that I would need to refer to other games to really discuss it, so I figured I’d do a little survey of turn based tactical games computer games that have caught my affection over the last ten years.  Unless otherwise stated, assume that all of these games involve grids and a typical “move and attack with your guys, then the enemy goes,” kind of structure.

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23 Mar 2020 09:48 #308472 by RobertB
re: Old XCOM. That game was crazy hard right up until you got psionics, at which point it got entirely too easy. You'd just walk your psychic in the room and make the aliens fight each other until there was one left.
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23 Mar 2020 10:55 #308480 by Jexik
There's a similar arc in the new XCOM's.

I was playing Shining Force, Ogre Battle and other pure JRPGs back in the XCOM original days.

Front Mission III and Final Fantasy Tactics were big for me too. Kinda took a Halo and WoW break in between that and board games.
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23 Mar 2020 12:13 #308487 by RobertB
I know they nerfed psionics in the new XCOM. Definitely nice to have in the new game, but in the old game, psionics was a game-breaker.

I've tried to play it ironman, but at some point about a third of the way in I usually get wrecked, and can't recover with newbies. Maybe I'll break it out again sometime soon.
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23 Mar 2020 12:16 - 23 Mar 2020 12:18 #308488 by Jexik
Once I started to play Ironman, I couldn't go back. Eventually beat it on Classic difficulty after a bunch of tries. Just gotta be really careful with cover and overwatch and whatnot. It really sucks when the game bugs out or you just missclick.

The psionic troopers in XCOM 2 are nuts, and you can potentially get them sooner.
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23 Mar 2020 12:28 #308489 by WadeMonnig

Jexik wrote: There's a similar arc in the new XCOM's.

I was playing Shining Force, Ogre Battle and other pure JRPGs back in the XCOM original days.

Front Mission III and Final Fantasy Tactics were big for me too. Kinda took a Halo and WoW break in between that and board games.

Ah, they're they are. The other Front Mission 3 fan lol
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23 Mar 2020 14:29 #308494 by Erik Twice
The original UFO: Enemy Unknown is great, if repetitive and very rough around the edges. It's true that Psionics break the game, but it was worth playing.

There's an indie remake called Xenonauts which I'm very fond of. It does away with some of the repetition and it's a nicer, more well-balanced game. Only thing I do not like about it is the unfairness of the endgame bosses, which can take control of your units, forcing you to cheese and the need to grind easy missions to get spacecraft materials. Otherwise, I recommend it.

Also, while the newer Fire Emblems have gone deep into waifu territory, the older games are very good and worth checking out. Beating Genealogy of the Holy War was a fantastic experience and I still need to try Thracia 776 again because I got swept when I played it.
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