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Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered!
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29 Sep 2019 22:37 - 30 Sep 2019 15:14 #302082
by Gary Sax
Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered! was created by Gary Sax
The acclaimed negotiation game has been remastered!
-Astounding new cover art...
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-Astounding new cover art...
Remaster trading and negotiation in the Elysian quadrant.
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30 Sep 2019 10:06 #302083
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I'd love to check this game out. But my shelf is full of games I can't get to the table, and this seems like another one of those.
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30 Sep 2019 10:50 #302084
by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
Yeah, I get you. I'm not shelf toad king for nothing.
That said, I could see getting this out with people before a lot of other innovative games because it's real time and it's not as punishing. So, like, archipelago and study in emerald I have no idea if I will ever play because not only are they complex, they are also based in cutthroat deception. Sidereal you can make "bad" trades I guess but not that bad---the game gives the base value if resources, there's open info, and all deals are binding. No one is specifically out to fuck you over.
That said, I could see getting this out with people before a lot of other innovative games because it's real time and it's not as punishing. So, like, archipelago and study in emerald I have no idea if I will ever play because not only are they complex, they are also based in cutthroat deception. Sidereal you can make "bad" trades I guess but not that bad---the game gives the base value if resources, there's open info, and all deals are binding. No one is specifically out to fuck you over.
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30 Sep 2019 14:13 #302097
by Frohike
Replied by Frohike on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
4 player minimum = this will never get played here. But I’d totally join a game somewhere.
Confluence typo in the title btw
Confluence typo in the title btw
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30 Sep 2019 16:48 #302098
by Josh Look
Replied by Josh Look on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
I really enjoyed it, but the folks I played it with were pretty split on it. Nobody disliked it, they just loved it or didn’t know what to make of it. Perhaps it being easier to teach will help.
The game is really just converting one colored cube into another, the twist is that all that conversion happens via trade, negotiation and variable player powers.
The game is really just converting one colored cube into another, the twist is that all that conversion happens via trade, negotiation and variable player powers.
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30 Sep 2019 18:06 #302099
by Erik Twice
Replied by Erik Twice on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
For me the issue I face is that every game of Sidereal Confluence I would get to the table I would have one less game of Dune or 18XX or Civilization. Competition is very stiff for me.
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30 Sep 2019 18:23 #302101
by Ah_Pook
Replied by Ah_Pook on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
The couple times I played this were okay, but no one loved it and I sold it. It's information overload the game. The actual decisions are very straightforward, the game is who can parse the giant clusterfuck spreadsheet of bullshit well enough to actually see the decisions to make. I'm sure there's another level of game beyond that, but the game is long and intense and wants very large player counts so the odds of ever getting to that next level are nil.
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30 Sep 2019 18:36 #302102
by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Sidereal Conflunece Being Remastered!
My understanding of the next level of the game is understanding the aggregate economic patterns that are developing at the table. So understanding the table's economy, so to speak, with the races that are being played and number of players.
I can see that at high player counts that would be impossible in general, but I could see making some strategic plays in my trades and investments based on the composition of the table and the techs people are driving for at 5 or 6 players.
I can see that at high player counts that would be impossible in general, but I could see making some strategic plays in my trades and investments based on the composition of the table and the techs people are driving for at 5 or 6 players.
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30 Sep 2019 23:29 #302104
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The ad copy almost sounds like an apology for the 1st version's rule book. Was it that bad?
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01 Oct 2019 01:54 #302106
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Replied by Gary Sax on topic Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered!
That's the weird thing, not at all. I think you could beef with the graphic design and such, but the rules never struck me as bad at all. I found that bit very surprising.
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02 Oct 2019 17:27 #302149
by jeb
Replied by jeb on topic Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered!
the 1e rules are SO bad
I learned how to play ARKHAM HORROR by my damn self and I cannot being to penetrate the SIDEREAL CONFLUENCE rules. Some of the absolute worst rules I have seen in the modern era.
I learned how to play ARKHAM HORROR by my damn self and I cannot being to penetrate the SIDEREAL CONFLUENCE rules. Some of the absolute worst rules I have seen in the modern era.
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02 Oct 2019 18:23 #302153
by Shellhead
Replied by Shellhead on topic Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered!
I have never played Sidereal Confluence, but I have played many games of Pit. It seems like Sidereal Confluence would be a real headache to play, due to the combination of variable powers, bidding, engine-building, and real-time trading. Information overload plus a frantic pace.
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02 Oct 2019 20:15 #302156
by Gary Sax
This is really interesting, I had no real problems with them so I was wondering why they were selling the rules update so hard.
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jeb wrote: the 1e rules are SO bad
I learned how to play ARKHAM HORROR by my damn self and I cannot being to penetrate the SIDEREAL CONFLUENCE rules. Some of the absolute worst rules I have seen in the modern era.
This is really interesting, I had no real problems with them so I was wondering why they were selling the rules update so hard.
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03 Oct 2019 09:48 #302166
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I think about this game a lot. I need a game group in my current town. I should *gulp* meet some randos at the public game night.
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10 Jul 2020 13:22 - 10 Jul 2020 13:23 #311868
by Gary Sax
Replied by Gary Sax on topic Sidereal Confluence Being Remastered!
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An interesting interview with the designer here, listened to it while doing something else, though the designer seems pretty nervous. This game is at the top of my want-to-play toad list now that John Company has gotten a bunch of TTS play (wooo!).
I'm always amazed how much this game actually has lore and thematic grounding that are not present in the game.
An interesting interview with the designer here, listened to it while doing something else, though the designer seems pretty nervous. This game is at the top of my want-to-play toad list now that John Company has gotten a bunch of TTS play (wooo!).
I'm always amazed how much this game actually has lore and thematic grounding that are not present in the game.
Last edit: 10 Jul 2020 13:23 by Gary Sax.
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