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Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
15 Jul 2020 12:02 #312081
by budsticky
Replied by budsticky on topic Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
The reasons publishers argue for embargo is that they want reviewers to take time with the game in order to form a strong and informed opinion. Without the embargo, they argue that it will be a race to see who can post the reviews first in order to get clicks and therefore the reviews won't be as valid.
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15 Jul 2020 12:22 - 15 Jul 2020 12:27 #312083
by ubarose
It's also great for our reviewers when the review copies get shipped out well in advance of the embargo date for exactly that reason. However, we have a couple of publishers that typically don't ship out their review copies early, and they arrive maybe a week, if your lucky 2 weeks, before the embargo date. That's always a nightmare for us.
ETA: And it is always still a race to get the review published and google indexed first. I've sat watching the clock waiting to hit the button at exactly one second past midnight (or whatever time they give us). Or worse, when we are on a tight timeline, watching my phone for a text that the review has been submitted.
Replied by ubarose on topic Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
budsticky wrote: The reasons publishers argue for embargo is that they want reviewers to take time with the game in order to form a strong and informed opinion. Without the embargo, they argue that it will be a race to see who can post the reviews first in order to get clicks and therefore the reviews won't be as valid.
It's also great for our reviewers when the review copies get shipped out well in advance of the embargo date for exactly that reason. However, we have a couple of publishers that typically don't ship out their review copies early, and they arrive maybe a week, if your lucky 2 weeks, before the embargo date. That's always a nightmare for us.
ETA: And it is always still a race to get the review published and google indexed first. I've sat watching the clock waiting to hit the button at exactly one second past midnight (or whatever time they give us). Or worse, when we are on a tight timeline, watching my phone for a text that the review has been submitted.
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15 Jul 2020 12:30 #312087
by Shellhead
Replied by Shellhead on topic Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
Unless a game is playable online, or solitaire or maybe two-player, getting in enough plays for a proper review seems unlikely during a pandemic. Maybe it's different in other places, but my local friends would rather not meet up to play board games until after the pandemic is over.
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15 Jul 2020 14:30 - 15 Jul 2020 14:33 #312090
by budsticky
The thing that really got me about Tapestry was the fact that they basically got a whole bunch of people, including me unfortunately, to pay them in order to play test his game.
I'm not trying to be a hater but I'm very skeptical about Stonemaier now. I haven't really liked any of his designs. Viticulture was tolerable for me, but only when you got the essential edition and the essential edition of the expansion.
I do enjoy Wingspan, but that wasn't his design. So who knows. Pendulum isn't his design either. Maybe I'll like it, but I certainly won't be pre-ordering.
Replied by budsticky on topic Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
Erik Twice wrote: I don't want to pile on Stonemaier, but I've yet to enjoy any of their games.
Tapestry is a polished turd. It's the most polished piece of crap I've ever seen in gaming. It's baffling because so much work and talent has been put into it that I can't imagine why nobody said "wow, this game doesn't work, let's work on a better idea instead".
The thing that really got me about Tapestry was the fact that they basically got a whole bunch of people, including me unfortunately, to pay them in order to play test his game.
I'm not trying to be a hater but I'm very skeptical about Stonemaier now. I haven't really liked any of his designs. Viticulture was tolerable for me, but only when you got the essential edition and the essential edition of the expansion.
I do enjoy Wingspan, but that wasn't his design. So who knows. Pendulum isn't his design either. Maybe I'll like it, but I certainly won't be pre-ordering.
Last edit: 15 Jul 2020 14:33 by budsticky.
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15 Jul 2020 16:35 - 15 Jul 2020 16:36 #312094
by Sagrilarus
Replied by Sagrilarus on topic Pendulum Coming from Stonemaier Games
I don't see why an embargo matters much either way. When you have enough information to make a purchase decision you purchase. If it's three weeks later than you originally intended it's not going to have much of an impact on your life.
Given my life's current pace and inability to sit down with friends it's really an academic point. Stonemaier is doing us a favor.
Given my life's current pace and inability to sit down with friends it's really an academic point. Stonemaier is doing us a favor.
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15 Jul 2020 18:13 #312097
by Gary Sax
For me I'd say that depends on your state/region's current covid status and also your comfort and trust with the other people. If it's just a game group, I wouldn't do it in a million years. If they're close friends and covid is somewhat under control in your region, it's not the most dangerous thing in the world to expand your bubble to a couple other people/families you trust.
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Shellhead wrote: Unless a game is playable online, or solitaire or maybe two-player, getting in enough plays for a proper review seems unlikely during a pandemic. Maybe it's different in other places, but my local friends would rather not meet up to play board games until after the pandemic is over.
For me I'd say that depends on your state/region's current covid status and also your comfort and trust with the other people. If it's just a game group, I wouldn't do it in a million years. If they're close friends and covid is somewhat under control in your region, it's not the most dangerous thing in the world to expand your bubble to a couple other people/families you trust.
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