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My oh my, what have we here? Crokinole!
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On that note, I just called Perry Cock's bluff at Multi-Man on Warriors of Japan. I may be the proud owner of 70 copies at wholesale, zero shipping costs. I can't help but think this would be a bad idea. I'd have to figure out how to ship those damn things too. I'd have to work up a business plan and total-cost analysis and consider putting them up on Kickstarter as a sale-by-proxy for Multi-Man, skimming a few dollars off of each sale on the way by.
I woke up to a normal day off. Remarkable what 12 hours can bring.
S.
Alright. You can't just leave us with that... what?
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So it got me to thinking -- their office is about ten miles from my house so I could avoid all shipping costs and get the games at a discount over the preorder cost. Put up a Kickstarter, and put my patented marketing bullshit on it and I bet I could get 70 sold and have the money in hand prior to having to pay MMP for the order.
What would remain is the time, effort and expense of packing and shipping (plus a cut for KS), and any copies I have left over would sell at 20% off retail at some point in the future. The game is small enough that having 20 or 30 in my garage wouldn't be a crisis.
Granted, MMP could do this themselves, but they're not. They look to CSW to do 100% of their marketing and at no cost. With a little prodding and an ad placed on Twilight Struggle's and C&C Ancients' pages on BGG they might just get enough interest for a $33 game (which is frikkin' cheap as hell at today's rates) to put it over the line.
For those of you who haven't seen it, it is a very visually attractive game, low chit count, low rule density. Play time is a bit on the long side though a game can end if one side gains a big enough lead prior to final turn. The art is by Mahaffey and he has done some very nice work to give it an Eastern ambiance.
So I shot a response back -- will you give me the retailer rate plus zero shipping (I'll pick up at their assembly point) if I order the remaining 70? Multi-Man doesn't bill until just prior to shipping, which means I could Kickstart this pig for about $2500. Multi-Man grade physical quality, tried-and-true Taiheiki quality game play, made in the USA. If I had a KS up now I could have an order to them prior to December 10th that would put it over the line.
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Apparently 25 want to keep the boards and want to have Crokinole nights as a regular thing when the boards are complete. 25 more aren't interested in keeping them, and he said that more than a few of them are talented individuals. He's very optimistic about the final result.
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In case they did I checked the price of an ad-buy in Medieval Warfare magazine. $200-$400 per month depending on the size, which would reach 9000 readers in North America. Appears to be an academic issue at the moment.
MMP may have changes coming with Schilling's health. Don't know what it would mean (or does mean).
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There's flaws in some of the boards, to be expected for first projects for most of the kids doing it. The lines aren't perfectly uniform in thickness, and there are some places where clamps were compressed too hard and have put a non-breaking crease in the wood. Some of those could be lifted, but some couldn't. But all in all the boards look very nice, and some of the kids are talking about having a Crokinole Tournament. I haven't spent anything yet and I'm having a great time with it.
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Sides are coming on, pegs in (quite tall) and they're starting to look like actual boards. Some have issues with their surfaces while others don't, as you'd expect from a high school shop class. But a couple of the boards I looked at looked very nice.
The teacher running the shop wasn't there today but the Principles of Engineering teacher was (this is the sponsor for the robotics teams) and he indicated that the price of materials was about $20 per board, implying that's what they would cost to purchase. I had been told $50 and my intention was to buy anything that looked good at that price, selling them to friends that had an intersest. I may end up with a trunk chock full of crokes, and at $20 a pop they'll go even if they have bumps in the varnish.
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That's a really cool wood shop project.
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+1wadenels wrote: Those look really sharp. If you're not opposed to shipping and they have extras to part with let
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Ditto on the shipping part, as I've always wanted a Crokinole board. Can't be worse than the Mayday ones...wadenels wrote: Those look really sharp. If you're not opposed to shipping and they have extras to part with let
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That's a really cool wood shop project.
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This is the framing tool used to get the hex-shaped rails mounted around the outside of the boards. Bottom edge is routed to snuggle into the base piece of the board, ends mitred to 67.5 degrees for a flush fit.
Sides have been both glued and brad nailed together, with the nails well inset. My buddy whose a carpenter is a much bigger fan of gluing than nailing and doesn't like dovetailing at all, calling it an antiquated way to join wood from a time when glue didn't last more than a couple of years. So this appears to be a solid way to make a solid package.
I turned over one board to have a peek -- no hanger on the back. I'll need to find a solution for that.
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