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06 Feb 2016 21:48 #221878
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Pardon my shitty photochop.
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Well, what I meant by a coincidence was that that is not the way you are meant to get the solution to the back gate. Here's the actual solution to the back gate of the JTG:jeb wrote: The first one is the one I am stuck on and you are a liar! ....OK, I will keep poking at it. I can't believe it's a coincidence though, no effing way.
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06 Feb 2016 22:48 #221884
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My mind is blown!
Thanks for the nudge--I was aware of that on the earlier puzzles, but the shapes here seem all wrong. I will flex my brain on this some more. The other puzzle I mentioned, I see something nearby that should help, I just can't quite get it the way I like.
I was offline all day (a Sabbath thing) but I was able to contemplate some puzzles I captured on paper and solve them. That's a nice feeling.
My brother-in-law paused his game looking at a blank puzzle, replaced his four-year-old video card, turned the game back on and saw the answer staring him in in the face. Those video cards matter! Thanks for your guidance on this earlier, he appreciated it.
Thanks for the nudge--I was aware of that on the earlier puzzles, but the shapes here seem all wrong. I will flex my brain on this some more. The other puzzle I mentioned, I see something nearby that should help, I just can't quite get it the way I like.
I was offline all day (a Sabbath thing) but I was able to contemplate some puzzles I captured on paper and solve them. That's a nice feeling.
My brother-in-law paused his game looking at a blank puzzle, replaced his four-year-old video card, turned the game back on and saw the answer staring him in in the face. Those video cards matter! Thanks for your guidance on this earlier, he appreciated it.
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06 Feb 2016 23:23 - 06 Feb 2016 23:31 #221887
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I had some graphics issues with some of the puzzles in the woods behind the sawmill, so I would focus on the panel, bumped it up to HIGH, made sure I didn't move so my computer wouldn't start smoking, solved it, then turned the settings back down. I only needed to do that maybe twice though.
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jeb wrote: Thanks for the nudge--I was aware of that on the earlier puzzles, but the shapes here seem all wrong. I will flex my brain on this some more.
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I used my phone to record the audio until the right sample was by itself and not being overlapped by the other asshole bird, then I just played it back over and over until I could parse out the differences in pitch. I did the stupid hand motions of "up and down" trying to capture it right. Those were difficult to get right.
jeb wrote: My brother-in-law paused his game looking at a blank puzzle, replaced his four-year-old video card, turned the game back on and saw the answer staring him in in the face. Those video cards matter! Thanks for your guidance on this earlier, he appreciated it.
I had some graphics issues with some of the puzzles in the woods behind the sawmill, so I would focus on the panel, bumped it up to HIGH, made sure I didn't move so my computer wouldn't start smoking, solved it, then turned the settings back down. I only needed to do that maybe twice though.
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07 Feb 2016 08:54 #221895
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I'm inside the
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mountain!
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07 Feb 2016 12:39 - 07 Feb 2016 19:41 #221906
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That's where I am right now. Though I think I might go back and finish my last area, the Dye Swamps, before continuing.
405 panels +67
405 panels +67
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07 Feb 2016 22:30 #221936
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Guy takes a coupla days off and you dudes go hog on the whole thing, sheesh.
I finally unlocked a chamber in the dye swamps that has been a challenge for me. That was heartening. I am still struggling with that puzzle I'd mentioned earlier. I might brute force it, but that's a bummer since there are a LOT of options there.
The spoiler below discusses my current progress, which is a ways into the game.
I finally unlocked a chamber in the dye swamps that has been a challenge for me. That was heartening. I am still struggling with that puzzle I'd mentioned earlier. I might brute force it, but that's a bummer since there are a LOT of options there.
The spoiler below discusses my current progress, which is a ways into the game.
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I am around 370, +65. I fired another laser (stupid birds) and the mountain is beckoning me. I have unlocked two of the three "bolts" on that cap up there. But those dumb statues are in in the way. I see more lasers to fire though, so I am heading back down for now. I have still the Treehouse and Dye Swamp at least. There are some +XX puzzles that I need to move some platforms for and that's a bit of a drag.
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07 Feb 2016 22:56 - 08 Feb 2016 00:13 #221939
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I didn't have kids deliberately to avoid any sort of responsibility so I could spend the entire weekend playing video games.
I just finished the Dye Swamps. Where is the puzzle located that you are stuck on? I don't recognize it. (Edit - Nevermind, I found it. Edit 2 - Solved it.)
Has anyone else wondered why there is a single gray cloud in the sky?
I have all 11 areas now cleared. I only really see a few miscellaneous panels around that I'm not quite sure how to solve, or what they lead to. Speaking of, has anyone solved the panel in the quarry building up in the control room that doesn't appear to link to anything?
As for scoring,
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jeb wrote: Guy takes a coupla days off and you dudes go hog on the whole thing, sheesh.
I didn't have kids deliberately to avoid any sort of responsibility so I could spend the entire weekend playing video games.
jeb wrote: That was heartening. I am still struggling with that puzzle I'd mentioned earlier. I might brute force it, but that's a bummer since there are a LOT of options there.
I just finished the Dye Swamps. Where is the puzzle located that you are stuck on? I don't recognize it. (Edit - Nevermind, I found it. Edit 2 - Solved it.)
Has anyone else wondered why there is a single gray cloud in the sky?
jeb wrote: The spoiler below discusses my current progress, which is a ways into the game.
Warning: Spoiler!I am around 370, +65. I fired another laser (stupid birds) and the mountain is beckoning me. I have unlocked two of the three "bolts" on that cap up there. But those dumb statues are in in the way. I see more lasers to fire though, so I am heading back down for now. I have still the Treehouse and Dye Swamp at least. There are some +XX puzzles that I need to move some platforms for and that's a bit of a drag.
I have all 11 areas now cleared. I only really see a few miscellaneous panels around that I'm not quite sure how to solve, or what they lead to. Speaking of, has anyone solved the panel in the quarry building up in the control room that doesn't appear to link to anything?
As for scoring,
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I am at 412, +70, 11 lasers. I'm down in the mountain, stuck on something that I needed a break from. I'll come back to it tomorrow. As for the +XX, there's a few that I know of, but can't figure out how to get them lined up properly. Kind of frustrating. Also, I'm guessing the black pillars show you how many you have left?
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08 Feb 2016 02:46 #221942
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My progress right now is discussed in this spoiler--I am well into the game.
Loving this game, damn.
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It's only USUALLY gray.Disgustipater wrote: Has anyone else wondered why there is a single gray cloud in the sky?
The spoiler below talks about aspects of +XX puzzles.Disgustipater wrote: As for scoring,
Warning: Spoiler!I am at 412, +70, 11 lasers. I'm down in the mountain, stuck on something that I needed a break from. I'll come back to it tomorrow. As for the +XX, there's a few that I know of, but can't figure out how to get them lined up properly. Kind of frustrating. Also, I'm guessing the black pillars show you how many you have left?
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Yep, they show what's left and what shape they are--the ones you don't have are dim, but visible. This helps because you can see the shape and have an idea of where it is nearby--I think all the drawings on one side are closely related--this is how I got all the Tea Garden ones--I could see what I missing and then go try to line those up.
My progress right now is discussed in this spoiler--I am well into the game.
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Finished the Dye Swamp, save some +XX's. Still need to do the town--that frigging tea garden twin puzzle is going to make me scream. Found another movie, very Buddhist. Finished the shady trees--I was hung up on one for a while there. Did that and burned through the rest. Still have to do one at the top of the Castle. Still need to get into that Cave near the JTG. Have a few more tree house puzzles to do. Need to figure out how to move the Sawmill back--there's a +XX I missed there. Still haven't opened the third bolt on the mountain.
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08 Feb 2016 09:55 #221950
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I went back at looked at the picture of your impossible puzzle. You have the orientation of the T piece wrong. It should be an upside down T, not sideways as you have it.
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08 Feb 2016 13:11 #221983
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THANK YOU, I am not crazy. Whew. That would work, yep.
BTW, the single gray cloud was almost surely white for a single shining moment in your game. You can work it out.
The spoiler below contains some ruminations on late game stuff. Not ending stuff, before that. I guess. Not sure.
BTW, the single gray cloud was almost surely white for a single shining moment in your game. You can work it out.
The spoiler below contains some ruminations on late game stuff. Not ending stuff, before that. I guess. Not sure.
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We know some things.
We know the monoliths are "tracking" the environmental +XX puzzles. Is that it? Is it like the tracker in FEZ, so you knew where to go, but nothing else? Is there a pattern to their positions on the island?
What about the pieces of paper panels, with the triangles? Maybe this is in the mountain and you guys are chuckling at this sweet summer child. Also wondering if there is a pattern to their placement.
There are six movies to see (I have seen two). I think I know where at least two more of the maps are. There are +XX puzzles in the movie room though--but maybe you need a movie to complete them?
What's up with the one craggy tree by the quarry? I got nothing there. Just cragginess? Same thing with the teeny waterfall between the mountain and the Dye Swamp. Just for prettiness?
@Disgustipater: I think the mystery panel in the quarry control room activates the nearby elevator? It was definitely not working, then I did a whole lot of stuff, and then it was--that may have turned it on, I wasn't really paying attention.
We know the monoliths are "tracking" the environmental +XX puzzles. Is that it? Is it like the tracker in FEZ, so you knew where to go, but nothing else? Is there a pattern to their positions on the island?
What about the pieces of paper panels, with the triangles? Maybe this is in the mountain and you guys are chuckling at this sweet summer child. Also wondering if there is a pattern to their placement.
There are six movies to see (I have seen two). I think I know where at least two more of the maps are. There are +XX puzzles in the movie room though--but maybe you need a movie to complete them?
What's up with the one craggy tree by the quarry? I got nothing there. Just cragginess? Same thing with the teeny waterfall between the mountain and the Dye Swamp. Just for prettiness?
@Disgustipater: I think the mystery panel in the quarry control room activates the nearby elevator? It was definitely not working, then I did a whole lot of stuff, and then it was--that may have turned it on, I wasn't really paying attention.
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08 Feb 2016 13:54 #221992
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Jeb,
Are you saying I missed my chance or I just need to be in the right position?
I'm a ways down and haven't found (or noticed, at least) anything about them.
The one up on the top of the rocks looking all imposing? I've looked all over that tree to no avail. The game image on Steam is a picture of that tree, so who knows.
No, I had the elevator working prior to touching the extra panel. Your formerly impossible puzzle doesn't seem to do anything either.
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jeb wrote: BTW, the single gray cloud was almost surely white for a single shining moment in your game. You can work it out.
Are you saying I missed my chance or I just need to be in the right position?
jeb wrote: What about the pieces of paper panels, with the triangles? Maybe this is in the mountain and you guys are chuckling at this sweet summer child. Also wondering if there is a pattern to their placement.
I'm a ways down and haven't found (or noticed, at least) anything about them.
jeb wrote: What's up with the one craggy tree by the quarry? I got nothing there. Just cragginess? Same thing with the teeny waterfall between the mountain and the Dye Swamp. Just for prettiness?
The one up on the top of the rocks looking all imposing? I've looked all over that tree to no avail. The game image on Steam is a picture of that tree, so who knows.
jeb wrote: I think the mystery panel in the quarry control room activates the nearby elevator? It was definitely not working, then I did a whole lot of stuff, and then it was--that may have turned it on, I wasn't really paying attention.
No, I had the elevator working prior to touching the extra panel. Your formerly impossible puzzle doesn't seem to do anything either.
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08 Feb 2016 14:23 #221998
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Back at ya, Disgustipater. This spoiler contains late game banter and speculation.
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You can get it for sure, just saying at one point in your game it was probably white and you didn't notice. But you can make it be white again at will.Disgustipater wrote:
jeb wrote: BTW, the single gray cloud was almost surely white for a single shining moment in your game. You can work it out.
Are you saying I missed my chance or I just need to be in the right position?
On PS4, the game image is the laser-gate in the Shady Trees. Maybe it's just a prettiness thing. The gate at least did something. That tree is just sitting out there. There are some paths in the mangroves that don't seem to have a purpose either. And why with the burned tree house?Disgustipater wrote:
jeb wrote: What's up with the one craggy tree by the quarry? I got nothing there. Just cragginess? Same thing with the teeny waterfall between the mountain and the Dye Swamp. Just for prettiness?
The one up on the top of the rocks looking all imposing? I've looked all over that tree to no avail. The game image on Steam is a picture of that tree, so who knows.
I think I remember hearing a clunk or something for that one. Maybe I solved it "wrong?" Those "big" puzzles have been the ones in front of movie solution maps. I should poke around and see if there's a box around that can be opened.Disgustipater wrote:
jeb wrote: I think the mystery panel in the quarry control room activates the nearby elevator? It was definitely not working, then I did a whole lot of stuff, and then it was--that may have turned it on, I wasn't really paying attention.
No, I had the elevator working prior to touching the extra panel. Your formerly impossible puzzle doesn't seem to do anything either.
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08 Feb 2016 15:40 #222016
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Viewed from the right angle it makes a cool vignette, similar to the other random scenes scattered around the island.
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jeb wrote: And why with the burned tree house?
Viewed from the right angle it makes a cool vignette, similar to the other random scenes scattered around the island.
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09 Feb 2016 08:52 #222052
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Finished.
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09 Feb 2016 09:47 #222056
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Legomancer wrote: Finished.
Question:
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I've been stuck on this puzzle for a while:
i.imgur.com/7XjaEPz.jpg
I'd just like to know if it is A or B.
A. It is a straightforward puzzle that requires me to solve it with both lines making it to an endpoint, following the standard rules for black/white squares and sunbursts.
B. There is some 'twist' to it that makes it not simply a basic line puzzle as described above.
I don't want to keep banging my head against this trying to solve it the standard way if there's something I'm not seeing that makes it different.
i.imgur.com/7XjaEPz.jpg
I'd just like to know if it is A or B.
A. It is a straightforward puzzle that requires me to solve it with both lines making it to an endpoint, following the standard rules for black/white squares and sunbursts.
B. There is some 'twist' to it that makes it not simply a basic line puzzle as described above.
I don't want to keep banging my head against this trying to solve it the standard way if there's something I'm not seeing that makes it different.
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