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Let's Talk HADES (spoilers OK)
sornars wrote: I get the appeal of wanting a wiki but to be honest a lot of the bits you’re complaining about were designed to be discovered by grinding the (intentionally) repetitive game loop and talking to people between runs and trying out new things all so you can start to identify the patterns yourself. I understand all too well how that may not be well aligned for someone with a limited amount of game time but it’s very much a hallmark of the genre.
I'm fine with this kind of design, but my reaction to it is to immediately wiki new things as I encounter them. I do the same thing in From Software games etc. I'm fine with hard games if they hook me, but I have almost no interest in stumbling through hard games while also trying to figure out the purposefully obtuse nonsense in them. That said I think Hades falls on the friendlier side of the spectrum for this kind of game, wrt explaining it's systems etc. Aside from the character affinity/nectar stuff it's all pretty straightforward that I've seen.
Also, I got a 2 win streak which felt pretty good. The Fists of Demeter are my jam, especially with Chill on your attack. Also I successfully beat Heat 1 with the spear, so we're officially Making Moves.
Jexik wrote: I’ve been having success from heat 5-10 with the bow with the following strategy.
1. Hera Bow. Load up casts into your shot for big damage.
2. Aphrodite’s keepsake. Get Crush Shot (cast boon) if possible. Heartbreak strike if the cast doesn’t show. Any poms of power should go to the cast boon.
3. If you don’t see Athena in Tartarus, use her keepsake for Asphodel. Hope for the dash or strike boon. (Assuming you did get crush shot).
4. Keep going for Aphro or Athena, looking for their duo boon, parting shot. It adds your backstab damage to casts.
5. Chaos- along the way, try to get boons that either add to cast % damage, extra casts, or backstab damage.
6. Athena’s Blinding Flash causes her abilities to make things take extra backstab damage.
7. Super magical christmas dreamland- if you can somehow also get Artemis’ Legendary, it adds two casts.
Even just steps 1 and 2 is a solid build, but if you get some of this other stuff rolling, you can be chunking down 2k damage at a time with your backstab shots.
I’m currently in a run that might see me getting to step 7, although I’ve had to settle for having aphro on the attack and Athena’s cast.
Edit: I ended up losing this run, on Heat 10. Mostly because I only had 150 health and died three times to trash in Elysium. Killed Theseus and Asterius very quickly, bought one death defy charge, then lost to Hades.
This build is real good. I had heroic Aphrodite boon that made my casts hit behind enemies a lot of the time for some reason, but enough of them still hit that it crushed anyway. Plus I got an extra cast from Chaos, and a Hermes boon that made my casts drop out of enemies in 2sec. The damage output there is crazy.
I had the bow hidden aspect (replaces special with all the shots on the initial target with them splintering after they strike) with Dionysus' inflict hangover on special. Got the hammer that added additional special strikes.
Also did the hidden aspect shield (load casts into the shield release when you bull charge). Got the duo that if the casts are sitting around they pelt everyone with lightning damage. Most rooms I was able to load three casts in the beginning, bull rush the center, where the casts would drop doing Zeus' lightning strikes, then run around the room until everything dies. Also picked up the 30% chance for lightning to strike twice and lightning also causes jostle.
Still haven't beaten the game with the sword. It just feels like the knuckles but worse. Magnetic cutter is the easiest to use for me.
Man it took a long time for the game to get interesting and diverse. Took a holiday without the kids around for me to actually really unlock the game's potential.