Die Macher: Limited Edition Kickstarter Launched

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Die Macher:  Limited Edition Kickstarter

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$69.00
Start Date
June 26, 2019
End Date
July 11, 2019
Estimated Delivery
November 2019
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The new & improved edition of this classic game on German politics.

Die Macher is a game about the democratic process in modern day Germany, as players vie for political power in different regions of the country. Players are in charge of national political parties and must manage limited resources to help their party to victory. The winning party will have the most victory points after all the regional elections.

This new edition has been extensively updated by the designer.

The game includes both English and German rules and play aids. 

Die Macher: Limited Edition is a special release, and it is not likely to go into distribution for sale by Retailers. This Kickstarter project and a limited number of games at Essen & BGG CON (if we make it in time) will be the only way to get the game in 2019.  In 2020, Indie Game Studios & Spielworxx will only be selling the game via conventions, our websites, the BGG website and via direct sales on Amazon - it will not be entering normal distribution channels.

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ubarose replied the topic: #298882 26 Jun 2019 14:49
Huh? I remember when Die Macher was the #1 game on BGG. It was like to have any gamer cred there you had to have played it and loved it.
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charlest replied the topic: #298883 26 Jun 2019 15:08
I'd rather die than play Die Macher.
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ubarose replied the topic: #298884 26 Jun 2019 15:09
:laugh:

Me too.
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Erik Twice replied the topic: #298889 26 Jun 2019 15:41
I hope someone at my club gets it so I can play it.

I'm not getting into a kickstarter of it, though. ALso, 69$ plus shipping is fairly expensive.
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ecargo replied the topic: #298891 26 Jun 2019 15:50
I would love to try it just like how I tried TI4 to knock off my board gaming bucket list.
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RobertB replied the topic: #298892 26 Jun 2019 15:52
I wouldn't go so far as to say "love", but I think it's a pretty good game. It has the rep of being crazy complicated, but it's more like a bajillion simple steps, a'la Civilization. It puts you on the hook of deciding which elections you can win, and which you have to blow off.

When you see it, you get the impression that it's a zero-luck cube pusher, but in actuality there's enough card draws in the game to completely hose you.

I have two copies, the German Hans im Gluck one, and the Valley Games one. I bought the Valley Games one because I was tired of trying to tease a rule interpretation out of three translations. Or I was high the day I ordered it. I bumped into a demo in the dealers' room at Origins and told the guy in the booth that I really like the game, but I didn't feel compelled to own a third copy.
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Gary Sax replied the topic: #298895 26 Jun 2019 16:58
Die Macher is really cool. I'm super tempted by this but I've tried to clamp down on these sorts of purchases and I already have Valley Games version.
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Michael Barnes replied the topic: #298897 26 Jun 2019 19:13
I’ve owned it twice and have never played it. I set it up to solo once but didn’t get anywhere with it.
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san il defanso replied the topic: #298899 26 Jun 2019 20:05
Yeah, this is a cool game. I definitely won't be buying it, because it would literally never be played. But definitely worth it for people who can get it played.
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Sagrilarus replied the topic: #298901 26 Jun 2019 20:59
I'm wondering if it's been changed to reflect current German politics. Things have changed a bit.
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RobertB replied the topic: #298902 26 Jun 2019 21:25

Sagrilarus wrote: I'm wondering if it's been changed to reflect current German politics. Things have changed a bit.

The gentleman at Origins mentioned that they had changed the parties to be more like the parties today. What that means, I don't know. No Communists?
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dysjunct replied the topic: #298904 26 Jun 2019 22:12
I got it back in my dewy-eyed “OMG Eurogames!” phase. I set it up, looked at stuff with a tomato and a phone on it, then said “screw this” and traded it for Caylus. Less Ameritrash cred, but at least I played it a bunch of times before moving on.
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Gary Sax replied the topic: #298908 26 Jun 2019 22:24
It has this weird passive aggressive rep but it's actually quite confrontational.
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Legomancer replied the topic: #298913 27 Jun 2019 07:25
What I remember of it is that I later compared it to playing four games of El Grande in a row, except less fun than that would be. I can't say I wouldn't give it another try, though. I'm not backing it.
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schlupp replied the topic: #298917 27 Jun 2019 09:23

RobertB wrote:

Sagrilarus wrote: I'm wondering if it's been changed to reflect current German politics. Things have changed a bit.

The gentleman at Origins mentioned that they had changed the parties to be more like the parties today. What that means, I don't know. No Communists?

Seems like it's the same political parties though (black=CDU/conservative, purple=Die Linke/socialists, red=SPD/social democrats, yellow=FDP/liberals and green=B'90/Die Grünen/greens). There is another, right-wing populist party that has gained a significant number of seats in the last elections, at federal, as well as at state level. Maybe it'll be a stretch goal... :sick:

By coincidence I got this game out two weeks ago and the kids wanted to play, but after going through the material, I gave up quickly and packed it up again. One of these days though...