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I don't get the love for Sweeney Todd here. I thought it was Burton's worst film (tied with Batman Returns). However the two I think are his best, Mars Attacks! and Sleepy Hollow, haven't gotten much love here.
Put me on the plus side for both of those. Mars Attacks was just good goofy fun, and Sleepy Hollow had the good things I expect out of a Burton movie, minus a lot of the stuff that rubs me the wrong way. Sweeney Todd I liked for the same reasons, even if it wasn't a technically excellent musical.
Me and 12 friends went to see this, big smiles on our faces, excited as all get out that we were going to have a blast. We were giddy through the credits, laughed at the burning cow and then...nothing. Practically no other laughs. The only good thing were the Krispy Kreme doughnuts afterwards.
Sleep Hollow: watchable. Nothing really great here, despite an excellent cast.
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Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was so incredibly bad...
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Rocky Horror and Blues Brothers are fine too.ZMan wrote:
Saw Sweeney Todd and it was ok. Really, just ok. And I love musicals - does that make me anti-F:AT
Grease and Moulin Rouge get a pass, Chicago scrapes through as do some of the old MGM's, the rest can go hang out with the Eurogamers.
Agreed, though I never thought of Blues brothers as a musical.
If you have read old World War 2 comics, you have seen it all before without so much swearing and self indulgent references to other movies. As pulp, this kind of story is an enjoyable romp and a great product of a certain time period. As a $70 million dollar movie trading on Tarantino's reputation and Pitt's bankability, it is a new low, degrading to the memory of the millions who died in that war. If you want to see an edgy film about war, do yourself a favour and go rent The Battle for Algiers instead.
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I'm planning on seeing Extract because, obviously, I rather enjoy Mike Judge movies. In my opinion, they grow on you after the first watching. I can't imagine life without Office Space and Idiocracy now.
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SLEEPY HOLLOW was just garbage. He tried REALLY hard to get that Hammer sensibility but thanks to the screenplay it turned out more like a Scooby Doo episode in early American drag. The production design was great though. But you can't get around lines like "You must be a witch, for you have bewitched me".
Citadel- I think you saw INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS wrong. It's _not_ a war movie at all. It's not about WWII in any way, shape, or form. It's about movies, and unlike other Tarantino pictures the endless homages are used to support that theme rather than just to parade out "cool" and esoteric references.
Watched SYMPATHY FOR LADY VENGEANCE the other day...holy crap, that's a harsh picture. Not as good as OLDBOY, but a good example of modern Korean cinema.
Whoa...somebody liked MARS ATTACKS? I've never heard of that happening! When I think about watching that movie again, I get nauseous.
I'm sorry, I must have logged into Fortress: AmeriFilmSnoot by mistake. Is it not Trash? Does it not have Tom Jones cast as a man of action? Big-skull aliens? Mars Attacks isn't going to change anyone's life, but I stand by what I said before: "goofy fun". I enjoyed it because of what it was, though I'd never bring it up outside of "Tim Burton movies: discuss."
You're probably right about Sleepy Hollow. It was really nice to look at, and that's probably the basis of any fond memories. I'm not going to go watch either one again.
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Mars Attacks is revoltingly bad.
Studio Ghibli is heaven.
Citadel- I think you saw INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS wrong. It's _not_ a war movie at all. It's not about WWII in any way, shape, or form. It's about movies, and unlike other Tarantino pictures the endless homages are used to support that theme rather than just to parade out "cool" and esoteric references.
Maybe, I have been thinking about the fact that the movie is basically pro-war "America can solve all the world's problems" propaganda but then it has nazis watching a propaganda film in the middle of it. Is Tarantino really that subtle? Would that not have gone over 99% of the audience's heads? I went to see this film with five clever people and none of them read it that way. Is that not Tarantino sticking his middle finger up at his audience?
I was also troubled by the torture scene in the film - an element of almost every other film he has made. In the film Taxi to the Dark Side, Alex Gibney criticises Hollywood's portrayal of torture in recent years saying that it makes the concept of torture acceptable to the viewing audience. The more films and TV series I see with torture scenes and how torture is depicted as being the obvious choice when you want to get information from an uncooperative individual, the more I agree with him.
I think you may be giving the guy more credit than he deserves. I am not convinced that those layers of satire are there. All his films are films about film making but in the sense of lifting the bits he likes and putting them in his films, it isn't direct like The Player. I am still thinking he has made a propaganda film based on old propaganda comics. Showing nazis watching a propaganda film just seems like an after thought to say, "Yah, but it's all ironic, right?" I think he may have been sat on the idea for years and he has chosen an entirely inappropriate time to make such a film.