Games from the Cellar covers Heroscape this week

Give us a listen if you please. Good stuff this week.

gamesfromthecellar.com/episodes/heroscape

Hopefully will sometime soon.

Heroscape is so weird for me in that I absolutely loved it, but can't really see myself playing it anymore because of setup time and no one around to play it with really. It's the reason I'm still talking about board games now. Its the reason I'm on this site and not some other one. It's a nostalgic 10.

The rights for Heroscape just got picked up by Renegade. Looks like another batter stepping up to the plate.

I read that as "Restoration" instead of "Renegade" and had a totally different take just now.

I listened to the podcast over the weekend. I'm not convinced that it's financially viable for anyone to reproduce something with the same physical size and sheer variety as Heroscape. That's kind of what happened with the last Kickstarter, isn't it?

Sure, everything is more expensive these days. I looked it up for work the other day and with inflation, and today's prices are 1.99 times what they were in 1995. But Heroscape had the dual advantages of being a good game that was easy to get a ton of stuff for on the cheap; my question is, if you could collect and play any skirmish-level minis game and price were no object, would you still choose Heroscape?

My hot take on the HasLabs Heroscape situation is this:

The product they were offering wasn't what people actually wanted. Sure, there are people out there that will grab anything Heroscape they can get their hands on, but Annihilation didn't seem to have the same spirit. It felt like an overproduced monstrosity designed to grab the Kickstarter Miniatures crowd, rather than service the devoted Heroscape crowd.

I can't articulate it any better than it just seemed... wrong?

I hope this iteration from Renegade feels more like Heroscape. If they just bought the rights to print Annihilation, I may have to pass again. And that will make me really, really, really sad.

Controversial, I know, but I think y'all gotta give up on Heroscape. I think it is a game of its time, both econoimcally and mechanically, and you'll never recapture the content in that box or your feelings about it.

Virabhadra wrote: I read that as "Restoration" instead of "Renegade" and had a totally different take just now.

I listened to the podcast over the weekend. I'm not convinced that it's financially viable for anyone to reproduce something with the same physical size and sheer variety as Heroscape. That's kind of what happened with the last Kickstarter, isn't it?

Sure, everything is more expensive these days. I looked it up for work the other day and with inflation, and today's prices are 1.99 times what they were in 1995. But Heroscape had the dual advantages of being a good game that was easy to get a ton of stuff for on the cheap; my question is, if you could collect and play any skirmish-level minis game and price were no object, would you still choose Heroscape?

I don't think many of us (35-40+) are the main market .... younger people are still spending a hell of a lot of money on all types of stuff (card games, Warhammer, rpgs, comics) and I bet a lot of that is just on how it looks - just in the board game niche look at all the games with copious minis (of different tyles) still getting love.
If I didn't have a wall of massive kickstarter games to get thru I would be interested (... I may still be yet)

Gary Sax wrote: Controversial, I know, but I think y'all gotta give up on Heroscape. I think it is a game of its time, both econoimcally and mechanically, and you'll never recapture the content in that box or your feelings about it.

Luckily, I have a large enough collection that I can easily pass on whatever Hasbro/Renegade offers up if it isn't something that interests me.

Not backing Annihilation oh Haslabs was actually a pretty easy decision.

renegadegamestudios.com/blog/renegade-ga...nership-with-hasbro/

That's the promo announcement.