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Hypothetical Question -- Could a Massive Boardgame Value Collapse Happen?
Does this mean a bubble is about to burst? No, I think we have a ways to go. The hobby is still growing, getting more and more money put into it. You can look at CMON and think that Kickstarter is going down, but you need to look no further than Awakened Realms to see the opposite. I do think you'll continue to see more consolidation of publishers looking for cost advantages as the market gets more and more crowded.
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Eventually the market collapsed and gutted everything. Companies folded, stores shuttered, stock was liquidated for pennies on the dollar. I haven't been into that kind of comics in years, but it destroyed the secondary market.
I am seeing a lot of this happening now, the same sorts of things. No-ship auctions are a gold mine for getting those SUPER HOTT TITLES for nickels. I have a copy of OMG OUT OF PRINT LQQK Blood Bowl Team Manager in an auction right now at a start price of $10 which hasn't gotten a single bid. (Some clown on Amazon wants $68.30 for it.)
As has been pointed out, you no longer need to wait a long time for something to plummet in price. The value collapse is already happening. It's just that there are still enough whales out there to fund shit on the front end to make the inevitable 60% discount not sting so bad.
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There really isn't a single market, each game is its own little sub-market.
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BGG is a little better for that, but not much. You still have like a two week window to get them sold.
But I could sell second hand copies of Scythe all day long.
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I think gamers are a bit too keen on making comparisons with the 1984 American videogame console crash and the comic book speculative bubble of the 90s. There are not many similarities and no reason for concern.
The only thing that is happening is that games are becoming cheaper. Like videogames. Games are going to keep getting cheaper and cheaper because there's more and more of them and the market is more crowded. I mean, videogames are now free because hitting as many people as possible is the best bussiness model.
Consider that games in Germany are significantly cheaper than they are in the rest in the world. Prices can drop a lot.
The secondary market is so cheap because the people buying second hand are outnumbered by those buying every single "game of the moment" with no longevity or long-term appeal.
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Sagrilarus wrote: Interesting discussion to so far. Frankly, my question was more on the line of an en-masse "what the hell are we doing?" moment, where a significant enough portion of the consumer market just balks at the concept of purchase, in consideration of the large volume of games that are already available. The resulting drop isn't 30% or 50%, it's more like 90%. It's a landslide that happens on short notice, not a steady decline.
FOMO and burnout.
Will the industry keep promoting FOMO, so that they can eek out a sliver of another percentage?
For the most part, the industry agreed with the wisdom shouted by consumers that promotional items that affect gameplay are bad for everyone in the long run. So no longer pulling that helped quell any implosion.
But, there are other promotional kinks being used, such as limited supplies, etc. These bits of FOMO could feasibly cause a collapse if not careful. I think thats the one main danger the analog gaming industry faces is promoting FOMO so hard that a mass burnout occurs.
A good analogy is the video game industry and loot boxes. The industry isn't self regulating to keep kids safe from these predatory practices. In fact, Facebook had court documents unsealed very recently showing how the company was promoting "friendly fraud" (their words) to prey upon children and their parent's wallets.
Consumers get sick of it, and there seems to be a breaking point rapidly approaching for everyone prior to governments legislating the practice as gambling.
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If this is like other trendy things it is maybe 20%, and that means the liquidation of a lot of Kallax cubbies.
There seem to be an increasing number of collectors that don’t actually play.
At some point, they will lose interest, liquidate and move to something else to collect.
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The only danger would a new hobby emerges that completely replaces board games and does everything better. Say, a really cheap high tech table that can replicate any game for cheap and play it with more robust components.
So, no.
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I don't think the industry is on the verge of collapse. There are still plenty of people being introduced to games, people hoarding games, young people taking after their parents or aunts and uncles, etc.
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Seems like a Golden Age right now so I see zero reasons for a collapse. I would not have said board gaming was at its height during the the collapse of AH etc
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