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League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier
The movie however..., it seems only Catwoman, Elektra and Daredevil were able to be worse.
So, anyone here, who can compare the books and tell me that Black Dossier kicks ass?
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The movie was a completely missed opportunity...it's such a cool concept and there's so many great characters. The movie actually hurts to watch.
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I would lump in The Punisher, two or three of the Batman movies, and Superman I, III, IV. Discuss.
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Movies: Clooney's Nipple-Batman was abysmal. Superman I was good, Superman IV (Returns?) -> blaech.
By the way, I heard that Sean Connery couldn't be convinced to play a Quatermain with an opium addiction. That alone would have made the League movie awesome.
And as a last deviation: anybody looking forward to the Hellboy 2 movie?
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Now that I think about it, I haven't been that impressed with relatively recent work by Alan Moore. Promethea was fantastic for the first 11 or 12 issues, then lost momentum during that long journey through the Immateria. And everything after that was frustrating and lackluster. Top Ten was amazing, but that hardcover 49'ers prequel was really an average story, not even close to the level of writing that I expect from Moore.
However, Moore really impressed me with The Courtyard, a two-issue mini published by Avatar, I think. The first issue and half seemed to be nothing but a noir detective story that was name-dropping the Cthulhu Mythos like crazy. Then midway through that second issue, *something* happens. Suddenly Moore unveiled an vast and deep understanding of the true horror of that mythos, in all its grand madness.
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On THE FALL...the trailer looks cool, but it's too bad Tarsem is a fucking hack. THE CELL was one of the worst movies I've ever seen with one of the most empty, meaningless, and bankrupt senses of visual style I've ever seen. THE FALL looks like it has "sumptuous" visuals but what else? Nothing, I bet. I wonder why it's been sitting on the shelf unreleased for two years?
I hated TOP 10, actually...I thought PROMETHEA was decent, if only because it let him really go on about all that shamanic magic stuff. I like Kevin O'Neil, and I think the atmosphere he brought to the story was really fun.
THE COURTYARD...that was pretty darn good, actually.
You Moore fans ought to read his novel, VOICE OF THE FIRE...it's awesome.
Moore's on autopilot these days, I think...he knows his best comics writing is behind him and it seems like he does more interesting things outside of that medium. I really like his spoken word stuff, actually. I'd love to see him write more novels, even some nonfiction...smart fella.
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...he looked a little disappointed. I should shut the hell up sometimes.
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I think it's like Jeb says...comics and superheroes are already deconstructed, post-modernized, cynical, and reinvented. I think part of the power of WATCHMEN _is_ lost on folks who weren't reading comics before 1985-1986. I remember reading it when I was a kid and I was just floored...it was something so daring, so inventive, and darker than anything that had come before. Plus the 1980s paranoia over annihilation was there and there was a real sense of melancholy that the Golden/Silver age style heroes just didn't _work_ anymore.
THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS had a lot of that too...but now, the significance of Batman beating the shit out of Superman or the fact that Superman is a government tool is kind of lost, out of its proper social and cultural context.
I'll never forget reading the part where *spoiler*Batman kills the Joker*end spoiler*...that was one of the biggest "HOLY SHIT!" moments I ever had in comics...years of locking that bastard up in Arkham Asylum so he could pop out the rusty screen door down the hall every time and finally it was over. Now, those kinds of stories and ideas are all over comics.
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On the other hand, the Watchmen movie might have the possibility to deconstruct the genre again, but this time the genre of superhero movies. If you recollect, the movies from the past 10 years were very often made like Golden Age comics -> happy ending, bad guy gets it, good guy gets the damsel. Why? Because that is Hollywood scheme 101. Now, if Watchmen will be true to its source that could be something. But to be honest, I don't know if Zack Snyder is the right man for the job. His movies are alright and enjoyable, but the impression I got from him (especially as I watched the audio commentary to Dawn of the Dead) is that he is more into effects and coolness, than a deeper meaning behind his movies. Ah well, next year we might see what he did.
And another turn away from Black Dossier: if you haven't read it yet, everything in the Hellboy universe is just the best comic you can find right now. I have so far not once been disappointed by any of the stories, although they constantly hire new artists and tend to get more and more complex. But somehow they manage to maintain a good pace and engaging stories. Fantastic read!
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I liked Watchmen when I read it 10 years ago and it was awesome. It even was a good re-read last year. But my favorite Alan Moore was V for Vendetta. The whole "Little Man" struggle against Fascist England was great.
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Read Watchmen a few years ago and loved it. Can't wait for the flick.
Haven't read Black Doss, but While I enjoyed League 1 I thought volume 2 was rather weak.
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