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Best "Conquer Feudal Japan" Game?

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27 Feb 2009 14:07 #22432 by Mad Malthus
What is the best "warring states" game?


1. Senji

2. Samurai & Katana

3. Samurai Swords (a.k.a. the old Shogun)

4. Shogun (a.k.a. Wallenstein)

5. Something I missed?


#1 seems to borrow some from #2, which itself looks like a decent game. The venerable #3 is a classic, a great game but somewhat lacking in the politics department. #4 is only on this list because of its subject matter. I know it basically sucks.

So what is the best and why?

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27 Feb 2009 14:56 #22442 by NeonPeon
Of those I've only played Samurai Swords - it's a solid game plus it has plastic swords and a ninja!

Ran looked pretty sweet to me, but the scope may be too small for what you're asking for.

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27 Feb 2009 15:12 #22443 by Shellhead
Feudal Japan is one of my favorite historical settings, and one of the rare settings that is suitable for multi-player warfare. But the map of Japan itself is like one long bottleneck.

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27 Feb 2009 15:15 #22446 by Mad Malthus
Replied by Mad Malthus on topic Re:Best
NeonPeon wrote:

Of those I've only played Samurai Swords - it's a solid game plus it has plastic swords and a ninja!

Ran looked pretty sweet to me, but the scope may be too small for what you're asking for.


Yes I should be more specific - I'm looking for something strategic in scope and multiplayer...I think GMT and MMP both have something in the works but I'm not familiar with those...

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27 Feb 2009 15:35 #22453 by NeonPeon
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Ran is actually the GMT game, but there could be something else in the works that I don't know of.

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27 Feb 2009 16:03 #22460 by clockwirk
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A MOST DANGEROUS TIME IN JAPAN is coming out soon from MMP. Supposed to be pretty cool and plays up to 4, I think.

Of the others, I've only played SHOGUN but I really like it. Not really a "war game", though.

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27 Feb 2009 16:21 #22465 by mikoyan
I've only played Shogun/Samurai Swords and I love it. There's enough meat to be a wargame. The politics is between the players. Each of the pieces feel different. Plus there's the Ninja.

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27 Feb 2009 16:39 - 27 Feb 2009 16:39 #22467 by Shellhead
I'm cautiously optimistic about The Art of War, the long-awaited boardgame version of Legend of the Five Rings. Rokugan is feudal Japan with the serial numbers filed off, magic added in, and then plonked down in place of mainland China. It isn't a historical setting, but it is rich with flavor, more developed than even Tolkien's Middle Earth ever was.
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27 Feb 2009 17:59 #22477 by Gary Sax
I think a most dangerous time from MMP is looking really cool. I don't have it on preorder, but if I keep seeing things I like and satisfied customers post-initial wave enthusiasm, I'll probably pick it up.

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27 Feb 2009 19:41 #22480 by adamant
A Most Dangerous Time should be out shortly.

Happy to answer any questions people might have about it.

It is primary a 2 player game but I have added variants for 3 and 4 player play - but they are not complete rules - more a kit to give it a try. I couldn't get enough testing to make flesh it fully out.

You probably have a few weeks left to order it on prepub - the price will jump after that as I went way over budget on the game.

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