FFG putting the stake in Terrinoth, but still rolling with other stuff

Jackwraith wrote: "Golden age" is in the eye of the beholder.

A lot of the olds are just sad to see a portion of their prime disappear. Whether FFG's games were good or bad, welcome or reviled, the point was always that they were certainly going to be discussed, certainly going to be reviewed, and certainly going to be carried at your FLGS and every significant OLGS. Since Asmodee pulled up the drawbridge and decided to convert FFG into "the Star Wars company" then those consistent eyeballs are fewer with every passing sunset. CMON basically took FFG's business model, moved it to Kickstarter, and became the FFG for the younger set.

Michael Barnes wrote: I couldn’t care less what FFG does at this point. They are the new Steve Jackson Games. Abandoning what made them great and sliding into a comfortable irrelevancy.

That's a great analogy. I'm sure talks are already underway for Munchkin Terrinoth.

I love Arkham, Fury of Dracula, Doom, Runewars, Runebound, Descent, BSG ... for years FFG was producing the games that really popped on the table and but had more heft than the Days of Wonder catalog. But just like SJG found that the real money was in endless recycling of the Munchkin "brand" for consumers who just wanted to buy what they already liked, FFG couldn't resist the siren song of yet another Star Wars game.

I don't care if people like their stuff, but it's strange to reflect on how quickly things changed from "new FFG game? I'll have to talk myself out of buying it" to considering FFG product announcements as noise that interferes with things I'm actually interested in.

I do think their card sleeves are fantastic though, so I will buy those.

I like New Dawn and Fallout.

If someone didn't give a shit about Star Wars, and I don't, would someone still like Outer Rim?

hotseatgames wrote: If someone didn't give a shit about Star Wars, and I don't, would someone still like Outer Rim?

Star Wars is a funny thing to me. I was enraptured as a kid (saw the original in the theater; don't @ me with your Part Four nonsense) and followed the lore in some of the books and comics, but gradually drifted away, before being totally alienated by the prequels. But I signed on to X-Wing for a while and loved the game, before deciding that collectible things were just not for me.

But there's some appeal left in the IP on the "dark and gritty" side for me. My favorite scene in the original film was the cantina. The only decent part of Return of the Jedi was the Jabba sequence (and even that was corny in a lot of ways.) I confess to being kind of geeked about The Mandalorian. So, there's some appeal for Outer Rim in that respect for me, but having played both it and Firefly, I'd say that if you like one, you'll like the other. It is more pick-up-and-deliver, but Outer Rim streamlines a few areas of that sequence that Firefly doesn't, so I think it's probably worth having both, if you like that style of game.

fightcitymayor wrote: Since Asmodee pulled up the drawbridge and decided to convert FFG into "the Star Wars company" then those consistent eyeballs are fewer with every passing sunset.

Pop Quiz! Which of the following is a fake FFG game that I just made up?

1) Star Wars: Imperial Assault
2) Star Wars: Rebellion
3) Star Wars: Age of Rebellion
4) Star Wars: Empire vs Rebellion
5) Star Wars: Resistance
6) Star Wars: Armada
7) Star Wars: Edge of the Empire
8) Star Wars: Outer Rim
9) Star Wars: Legion
10) Star Wars: Destiny
11)Star Wars: Force and Destiny
12) Star Wars: X-Wing

Does he mention Outer Rim in this? It’s kind of the only thing by them I care about at the moment, I was hoping it would get a small box expansion at some point.

PS - The answer is Resistance.

Are any of these bad games though? Empire vs. Rebellion wasn’t anything special when I played it, but there is a certain floor to Fantasy Flight releases, depending on your tolerance for the unit + upgrades system for their miniature games.

Furthermore, I admit I roll my eyes a little with every Star Wars announcement (not least because that’s less time spent on new Android and L5R games), but would anyone be more excited if these were set in the Twilight Imperium universe?

I think many here may be under-estimating how popular the FFG take on Marvel could become. Between the LCG, and this miniatures game* I saw at Gencon? It could have legs.

*Especially if the Marvel miniatures game is a 3rd edition of what came before; Runewars and Legion.

But in general; yeah, FFG just seems to be chipping along.

Josh Look wrote:
PS - The answer is Resistance.

Yep!

drewcula wrote: I think many here may be under-estimating how popular the FFG take on Marvel could become. Between the LCG, and this miniatures game* I saw at Gencon? It could have legs.

*Especially if the Marvel miniatures game is a 3rd edition of what came before; Runewars and Legion.

I think the LCG could be fucking huge if it's an adjustment of Arkham LCG. Art is fucking terrible but what are you gonna do, I think coop deckbuilder on brand superheroes sells itself.

drewcula wrote: I think many here may be under-estimating how popular the FFG take on Marvel could become. Between the LCG, and this miniatures game* I saw at Gencon? It could have legs.

*Especially if the Marvel miniatures game is a 3rd edition of what came before; Runewars and Legion.

The miniatures game will bomb.

1. It isn't FFG
2. It's 35mm or 42mm or something
3. It's a true miniatures game requiring terrain
4. It's as expensive as Games Workshop products