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What MOVIE(s) have you been....seeing? watching?
Thanks to Criterion's 80s horror watchlist, I saw Paul Schrader's Cat People for the first time. It's flawed, of course, and has probably only grown more problematic in terms of content since 1982, but Schrader's always at minimum interesting. I'd discuss the movie more but would be afraid I'd get locked up or confirmed as a crackpot.
The Keep is also on the list. Here's another (even more seriously) flawed movie, although it's not content per se but the production woes that resulted in a 96-minute movie from a 210-minute one. (And, no, from what I've read, I don't think there's any way to restore it, even if it were entirely worth it.) If you can sort of ignore the plot and give a pass to the horrible sound design and editing job (direct results of Paramount's meddling), you have Michael Mann's signature visuals, a Tangerine Dream score (on some releases anyway; apparently it was sometimes subbed out for rights reasons), and atmosphere, and that's about it--but (just barely) enough for me.
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jpat wrote: The Keep is also on the list. Here's another (even more seriously) flawed movie, although it's not content per se but the production woes that resulted in a 96-minute movie from a 210-minute one. (And, no, from what I've read, I don't think there's any way to restore it, even if it were entirely worth it.) If you can sort of ignore the plot and give a pass to the horrible sound design and editing job (direct results of Paramount's meddling), you have Michael Mann's signature visuals, a Tangerine Dream score (on some releases anyway; apparently it was sometimes subbed out for rights reasons), and atmosphere, and that's about it--but (just barely) enough for me.
A few years ago, a friend of mine staged a Michael Mann-rathon, a marathon viewing of all Michael Mann movies over the course of three days. I was unemployed at the time though getting interviews, so I was available for Thursday but not Friday, and his couch was probably insufficient for the crowd expected on Saturday. We watched The Jericho Mile, Thief, The Keep, and Manhunter, and it was all good, but I don't think I want to ever watch The Keep again. It was interesting but not good.
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Mr. Harrigan is an old man who dies of old age.
I was a viewer, who died of boredom.
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Speaking of Wick, I inadvertently got my 80 something mother to actually watch John Wick. I went to her house this weekend, to help her with her Firestick that she was having issues with, and I showed her how to better operate the remote control. When I brought up the channel offerings, one of them had all three John Wick movies. I saw it and commented on how great it was, explaining the initial opening of the movie, but also telling her they had some good bits how they reveal the actual background of Wick. I showed her the initial home invasion at Wick's house, including the cop scene.
She was audibly grimacing at some of the finishing, but when it got to the doorbell ringing, she said, "Uh, oh. Cops."
She wasn't disappointed, but when the "Noise Complaint? ....Noise Complaint." line was delivered, she howled in laughter.
I was 3/4 of the way home, and I got a text from her. "I'm going to watch John Wick now, love you."
I died.
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Somehow it sticks the landing and balance of all the humor and pretentiousness contained in that description. Jokes about Whataburger and the difference between University of Texas and Texas Tech nestle right alongside poetic waxing on the Big Bang and “Let there be light” both beginning the universe with sound. Characters are exactly what they appear to be. And more. And less.
It’s really good.
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Then I re-watched From Hell (2001). Johnny Depp delivers a solid, understated performance, and Heather Graham was good. Again, it fell short of the source material, and is probably on a long list of movies that Alan Moore will never watch. I like that the movie (and the comic) follow the Stephen Knight theory of Jack the Ripper, which is that it was a government conspiracy to cover up the sordid dalliances of a wayward prince. The overall portrayal of the seamy side of Victorian London seems convincing to my American eyes.
Years ago - well, I guess yeah, over 20 - I went on one of those walking tours in London with this ex-cop guy around the Ripper sites. He said the week before he'd given Depp a private tour because he was shooting a film and playing the main detective (Albermarle? Aberline? I forget). The guy had written books and things and was quite the expert, he had high hopes for the film based on Depp's questions and attentitiveness. I don't think he'd have been impressed haha. His own theory was more or less it was most likely someone unknown, almost certainly someone living in the community. It's been many years since I saw the film but I think they at least did try to do a good job with some of the atmosphere of the streets etc. I know this is the film thread but Jack London's book about slumming it in the area, written about 15 years later, is really really good on that stuff - People of the Abyss. Worth a read regardless. I don't think he mentions the ripper. There was enough horror without it anyway.
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Anyway I just discovered the Internet Archive has all these films and I've been watching a bunch. Holy shit, The Third Man - I have vague memories of seeing this years and years ago, but if I did I didn't appreciate it. What a film. So good.
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It does have Bjork in it, and I am always down for Bjork.
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I have to imagine that 1972 audiences were traumatized as fuck.
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hotseatgames wrote: I watched The Northman on Amazon Prime last night.
Ha! I backed into the soundtrack on Spotify and I've been using it on Warcry nights. Had no clue what it was. It's good for that, at least!
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Shellhead wrote:
Then I re-watched From Hell (2001). Johnny Depp delivers a solid, understated performance, and Heather Graham was good. Again, it fell short of the source material, and is probably on a long list of movies that Alan Moore will never watch. I like that the movie (and the comic) follow the Stephen Knight theory of Jack the Ripper, which is that it was a government conspiracy to cover up the sordid dalliances of a wayward prince. The overall portrayal of the seamy side of Victorian London seems convincing to my American eyes.
Years ago - well, I guess yeah, over 20 - I went on one of those walking tours in London with this ex-cop guy around the Ripper sites. He said the week before he'd given Depp a private tour because he was shooting a film and playing the main detective (Albermarle? Aberline? I forget). The guy had written books and things and was quite the expert, he had high hopes for the film based on Depp's questions and attentitiveness. I don't think he'd have been impressed haha. His own theory was more or less it was most likely someone unknown, almost certainly someone living in the community. It's been many years since I saw the film but I think they at least did try to do a good job with some of the atmosphere of the streets etc. I know this is the film thread but Jack London's book about slumming it in the area, written about 15 years later, is really really good on that stuff - People of the Abyss. Worth a read regardless. I don't think he mentions the ripper. There was enough horror without it anyway.
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Anyway I just discovered the Internet Archive has all these films and I've been watching a bunch. Holy shit, The Third Man - I have vague memories of seeing this years and years ago, but if I did I didn't appreciate it. What a film. So good.
I think we ended up going on the same tour with the same ex-cop. Cool tour; we bought his book at the end
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Also tried Old People on netflix (I think). A fairly odd German horror film with all the bones of a good slasher/thriller but it has a very odd intro set-up that had a lot lost in translation I think. Still, it is certainly gory enough I'll have to circle back around to finish it just to see who lives and who dies.
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