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14 Mar 2020 14:24 #308053 by ThirstyMan
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I think you should expect to see some perfectly fit 40yr olds falling foul of this virus. There may be a lower chance for fatality, the fitter you are but it certainly is not 100% safe. Outliers on the stats will take out some fit people.

Interestingly, the UK stance is NOT Boris Johnson's idea but is the direct advice from the top health professionals in the country. The current approach is the tactic they recommended for the UK. Whether it is more effective than shutting the borders has yet to be proven.
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14 Mar 2020 17:41 #308055 by Ah_Pook
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Schools in my county closed for at least 2 weeks. No word on my job thus far, beyond them offering 2 weeks paid sick leave for people exhibiting flu like symptoms. Which is nice, but not as proactive as it might be. Probably the best you're going to get from a big chain retail Operation though.

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14 Mar 2020 19:37 - 14 Mar 2020 19:38 #308058 by Sagrilarus
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Uba --

That's an impressive level of absurdity. "Sorry, you're out of sick leave, bring the infectious disease to work. No exceptions!"
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14 Mar 2020 19:41 - 14 Mar 2020 19:44 #308059 by Sagrilarus
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ThirstyMan wrote: Interestingly, the UK stance is NOT Boris Johnson's idea but is the direct advice from the top health professionals in the country. The current approach is the tactic they recommended for the UK. Whether it is more effective than shutting the borders has yet to be proven.


I'll mention that all the cases in the local area are from Americans traveling abroad, not foreigners coming here. The new restrictions don't keep U.S citizens out, and they aren't being tested on the way back in. So I don't know how closing the borders is going to help in our case. I think it's more about blaming those damn foreigners so that "it's not our fault" from our leaders sounds more plausible.
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14 Mar 2020 22:10 #308060 by ubarose
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Sagrilarus wrote: Uba --

That's an impressive level of absurdity. "Sorry, you're out of sick leave, bring the infectious disease to work. No exceptions!"


People who are actually sick can get sick bank time (if they enrolled) and/or FML.

The bit that was unclear was if the same were true if someone who wasn't sick but was self quarantined. This has just been clarified. People who have a medical quarantine order and run out of leave do qualify for sick bank time (if they enrolled) and FML.

Running out of leave because schools have been closed indefinitely and your young children are all at home still needs to be addressed.
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15 Mar 2020 04:00 #308066 by mc
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I'm sorry.... you have a type of leave called FML? :laugh:

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15 Mar 2020 07:39 #308068 by mtagge
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ThirstyMan wrote: I think you should expect to see some perfectly fit 40yr olds falling foul of this virus. There may be a lower chance for fatality, the fitter you are but it certainly is not 100% safe. Outliers on the stats will take out some fit people.

That's the thing with flattening the curve. Everyone still has to get sick. Everyone. We just want to make it so the severe and critical cases don't overwhelm medical facilities AT ONE TIME. The only way we could forgo everyone eventually getting it is if we develop a universal corona vaccine that somehow hits all the mutations. Best case scenario that is 12 months away, which gives this strain a chance to mutate. Actual eradication was only possible last December/January, but the Chinese didn't accomplish that. For "social distancing" to work properly we still get a lower 1% death rate, but we drag it out for six months instead of one. It is stupid that companies don't have any plans cognizant of this reality.

The thing about China. They have managed to stamp out the virus (except in Hubei) at great cost to their economy, culture, and human rights. However they didn't manage to cure or eradicate it. It's going to leak back in after they reopen the factories. WTF are they going to do then? Another three month quarantine of their whole country? Right now they are the same as any other country the virus hasn't taken hold yet. I don't know why the WHO praises them, they effectively did nothing except delay the problem until the future.

Lastly, Chinese studies let us know 80% of cases were mild. However they define mild a bit differently than us. So long as you didn't need oxygen or a respirator you were mild. You could be in a world of pain, but as long as you suffered at home you were mild.

Let us hope there is a "cure".
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15 Mar 2020 11:02 #308070 by Jackwraith
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15 Mar 2020 16:47 #308085 by Shellhead
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Here's some interesting visual aids to help explain the advantage of social distancing:

www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/wor...D4lwwTO2qlRhv76_ub9Q
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15 Mar 2020 17:43 #308090 by dysjunct
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Well, local schools just closed for two weeks. The governor has announced that school funding will continue so teachers will still get paid.

I’ll be homeschooling my kid I guess. My wife has been sending me a bunch of age-appropriate class schedules.

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15 Mar 2020 17:45 #308091 by Jexik
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Is the two weeks most of us are talking about enough, or should it be much longer? It seems like whenever people are allowed to move about freely again we'll run up against the same spike in that curve.

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15 Mar 2020 18:00 #308092 by charlest
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Leaked document from the UK government estimates this could be ongoing until Spring of 2021. Guessing about a dip in July until it comes back strong in October.

I don't know see how we could keep this up until July.

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15 Mar 2020 18:05 #308094 by dysjunct
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It’s hard to predict. It will probably come back in waves until there’s a vaccine.

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15 Mar 2020 18:07 #308095 by ChristopherMD
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I think at this point the USA is going for herd immunity like the UK whether we want to or not. Our response has been too slow and by the time the Wal-Mart brand testing kits are available it'll be everywhere.
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15 Mar 2020 19:02 - 15 Mar 2020 19:57 #308097 by ChristopherMD
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Massachusetts Governor has ordered all schools to close, no gatherings over 25 people, and restaurants are delivery/takeout only. No time limit yet.
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