Trashdome: Corey Konieczka vs Kevin Wilson

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I am voting for the huge cyborg ettin Kevin Konieczkalson. It has red lazer eyes and breathes fire. With one swipe of its mighty malformed claw, it can both rend a human in half and use the intestines for a new diceless combat system. FFG also grafted on Thaadds lips and larynx for great customer service.

I am about to start a geeklist for the FFG great customer service/game Design Death Cyborg Ettin.

Better read it soon though. FFG will put out a cease and desist notice as soon as I start listing the good stuff.

Steve"Oops did I let the giant cyborg ettin out of the bag?"Avery

Did FFG ever think about letting Kevin Wilson redesign a Corey K design?

I'm voting for Corey. Death Angel is just such an unbelievably tight game and I think it's impressive how it captures the theme and feel of a different game in an entirely different way. And Starcraft kinda does the same just with a computer to board game translation.

I did not know Kevin did stuff on A Game of Thrones which is one of my all time favourite games. But even though - and even though I adore Arkham Horror and am quite fond of Doom - the new Civilization game is a huge turd that disguises itself as a well made functioning game. You can play it, you can even have fun, but it leaves you all empty and unsatisfied at the end. So that's another reason to vote for Corey.

Vote for Kevin.

Vote: Kevin Wilson

I base that purely on Cosmic Encounter and Android, since I'm one of the odd ducks that actually likes Android.

As for Corey's games, Battlestar Galactica was fine, but I soured on it enough to eventually sell it to a friend. I thought Starcraft was a bit of a turd.

Man, Kevin sure is getting a TON of credit for Cosmic Encounter, and he really hasn't done much beyond not messing it up, as I understand. He deserves credit for treating the game with respect, and spearheading the release, but the bulk is basically what it was back in the 1970's isn't it?

Yeah. I guess whomever is in charge of not screwing up the Dune re-release will be our winner next year. This should be "standing on the shoulders of giants-dome".

I am going to vote for Corey K.. I love BSG and that is the one that probably puts this tough choice over the top for me.

Oj this is a tough one. (good one, Jur!) Both have designed very good games. In the beginning I loved Corey's streamlined design for example card resolved combat. But frankly I have grown a bit tired of his designs (BSG being the game that disappointed me most). While still being tight and streamlined show too little diversity. Kevin Wilson seems to be closer to classic Ameritrash, more rules, more dice. The fact that Doom (a heavily under-appreciated game)made me see the light that is Ameritrash, makes the choice easier: Vote Kevin Wilson

My vote is comming, don't close this yet.

From my less-than-adequate knowledge of these two guys and their sole work plus their assisted work (which is which is where I'm weak at) my comparisons show:

Original & Sole
Corey

Battlestar Galactica
Runewars
Middle Earth Quest
Death Angel
Mansions of Madness
Starcraft
Twilight Imperium 3: Shards of the Empire

Kevin

Descent
Doom
Warcraft: The Boardgame
Android
Civilization

ReDos
Corey

Warrior Knights

Kevin

Arkham Horror
Cosmic Encounter
Fury of Dracula

Assists (?)
Corey

Twilight Imperium 3: Shattered Empire
Tide of Iron
Warcraft: Adventure Game

Kevin

Game of Thrones

Where do I start - from the bottom will do.

Assists
Since I have little idea on how much of an assist there was in each I can't really give much weight to this, except I love Tide of Iron and it seems Shattered Empires 'fixed' TI3 for many people.
Slight advantage: Corey

ReDos
Fury of Dracula and Warrior Knights are both brilliant 'altered' redos, while Arkham Horror and Cosmic Encounter are both great reimplementations.
Slight Advantage: Kevin

Orginal & Sole
Both guys have an extensive portfolio but, to me, they both seem very different in style. This means they may appeal to different people in a very black and white way, and so it is with me. Only one of them has a good selection of games I enjoy or I would like to try.

Vote: Corey

Runewars is as much a redo as Arkham Horror.

Hats off to you, Tom. This is a great side-by-side.

Southernman wrote:

From my less-than-adequate knowledge of these two guys and their sole work plus their assisted work (which is which is where I'm weak at) my comparisons show:

Original & Sole
Corey

Battlestar Galactica
Runewars
Middle Earth Quest
Death Angel
Mansions of Madness
Starcraft
Twilight Imperium 3: Shards of the Empire

Kevin

Descent
Doom
Warcraft: The Boardgame
Android
Civilization

ReDos
Corey

Warrior Knights

Kevin

Arkham Horror
Cosmic Encounter
Fury of Dracula

Assists (?)
Corey

Twilight Imperium 3: Shattered Empire
Tide of Iron
Warcraft: Adventure Game

Kevin

Game of Thrones

Where do I start - from the bottom will do.

Assists
Since I have little idea on how much of an assist there was in each I can't really give much weight to this, except I love Tide of Iron and it seems Shattered Empires 'fixed' TI3 for many people.
Slight advantage: Corey

ReDos
Fury of Dracula and Warrior Knights are both brilliant 'altered' redos, while Arkham Horror and Cosmic Encounter are both great reimplementations.
Slight Advantage: Kevin

Orginal & Sole
Both guys have an extensive portfolio but, to me, they both seem very different in style. This means they may appeal to different people in a very black and white way, and so it is with me. Only one of them has a good selection of games I enjoy or I would like to try.

Vote: Corey

You're crazy. Doom and Descent, plus Cosmic and Arkham beat the piss out of any of the other games Corey has done. Kevin, without a doubt, for the win.

Mr Skeletor wrote:

My vote is comming, don't close this yet.

What's taking you so long, are you trying to play all their games again before deciding? Or are you preparing a write up to match Southern?