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- hotseatgames
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I want free shipping and a solo mode and more minis and a box that holds all expansions and sleeved cards and also the box to have two big tits on it that you can actually squeeze.
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sornars wrote: I was keeping an eye on Myth and Goal by Blacklist Games, designed by James Hewitt and Sophie Williams and Thunder Road: Vendetta by Restoration Games and both games looked pretty close to complete rules wise and had reasonable art but both Kickstarters were cancelled this week; presumably due to not seeing the sort of explosive returns the publishers were expecting.
The idea of a publisher creating a Kickstarter with a public goal — presumably so they can announce that it is three billion percent funded within eight nanoseconds — but then a private, “shadow goal,” that if they don’t hit, they will cancel … fills me with rage and makes me feel like writing off that publisher forever.
If KS was ethical (hah) they’d charge a mandatory minimum to any project that meets its funding goal.
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BillyBobThwarton wrote: This is the second time on this forum where the size of the Frosthaven shipment has come up. I have been following the project updates and have never seen numbers mentioned regarding number of containers they expected to be needed. Has this been shared, or is this speculation. For whatever reason I am curious.
frosthaven.backerkit.com/hosted_preorder...oject_updates?page=4
www.kickstarter.com/projects/frosthaven/...thaven/posts/3251930
I can’t find the 150 container quote, but I remember reading it, but here they say 90,000 copies. There is approx 10,lbs more content per box than Gloomhaven. So a bigger box than Gloomhaven, prob 50% bigger. 90,000 divided by 150 is 600 copies per container, which seems pretty plausible to me given that big a box per game.
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Msample wrote: There is approx 10,lbs more content per box than Gloomhaven. So a bigger box than Gloomhaven, prob 50% bigger.
50% bigger!??! Dear lawd. Hope the box design incorporates wheels and a pull handle.
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Msample wrote: 90,000 divided by 150 is 600 copies per container, which seems pretty plausible to me given that big a box per game.
A standard shipping container is 2560 cubic feet. So that would be four and a quarter cubic feet per copy, 12x12x48ish. Sounds a little high. It may merely be 120 shipping containers.
This moment is not a good time to be shipping anything anywhere in the world. The cost of renting a container has skyrocketed, about $21,000 apiece (just checked the listing, has dropped to $16,000 today for west coast ports), because no one has the transportation resources to get the empty containers back to dockside and onto ships returning to China. Containers typically go back to China empty, about 60% of all put on freighters for that part of the round trip. So they are piling up all over the U.S. because truckers are at a premium and you ship goods before you ship empty cans. To give you an idea, the cost of sending a full container back to China at the moment is just $1000.
Long story short -- shipping prices are absurdly high, and more importantly are unpredictable. Best guess is that things will settle out in the coming year. These guys may be keeping their powder dry in the face of the unknown.
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hotseatgames wrote: The thing that irritates me about all of it is how it tends to look like publishers bending to the will of the crowd. And you could argue that a crowdfunded game should maybe even do that... but there is absolutely a "too many cooks" thing going on here, and frankly taking input from some of these "experts" is pure folly.
I was looking at the campaign for a new game called Mythwind. The game comes with four different playable characters with very different powers, mechanics, etc. Okay, seems kind of interesting. But as a stretch goal, they're "crowdsourcing" ideas for a fifth playable character. This seems like a terrible idea to me and absolutely killed my interest in the game. Will that fifth character be playtested and edited at all? Or will it just be a collection of janky nonsense? It seems insulting to actual game designers to suggest that their job can be outsourced to a bunch of knuckleheads shouting on the internet.
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dysjunct wrote: This is funny:
www.kickstarter.com/projects/thedragonst...ssors-deluxe-edition
This is Kickstarter to the Nth degree: "For $75, we'll put a photo of YOUR FACE in the rulebook under a section titled "These people paid $75 to have their photo in this rulebook.""
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